BigRedBuster Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, ActualCornHusker said: Is this a version of "That's not real socialism"?... Honestly trying to get what you're saying. Fascism is MANDATORY for socialism/communism to be implemented. Wha???? 1 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Wha???? Maybe a more appropriate word would be tyranny?... Although fascism fits... Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: Maybe a more appropriate word would be tyranny?... Although fascism fits... Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy Thats not what socialism is. People really don't know what any of these things mean 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: Maybe a more appropriate word would be tyranny?... Although fascism fits... Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy Wha???? Has the US been ruled by tyranny? 1 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Wha???? Has the US been ruled by tyranny? Please clarify Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, ActualCornHusker said: Please clarify Well you drive on roads provided by socialism and you are protected by a military provided by socialism. Are we ruled by tyranny? 1 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Well you drive on roads provided by socialism and you are protected by a military provided by socialism. Are we ruled by tyranny? Socialism is Not ‘Public Roads’ and '911 Service' 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Does anyone remember why @Ric Flair got banned? Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, ActualCornHusker said: Socialism is Not ‘Public Roads’ and '911 Service' Than publicly funded healthcare and public college couldnt be socialism either. Im glad this debate can finally be put to rest. 4 Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Frott Scost said: Than publicly funded healthcare and public college couldnt be socialism either. Im glad this debate can finally be put to rest. You're not talking about the same point as me. I'm referring to Bernie specifically identifying as a socialist. I've already said that I'm not inherently opposed to universal healthcare. It's not the best system available, but it appears to be the direction we're heading, so that is what it is I guess... Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: Socialism is Not ‘Public Roads’ and '911 Service' Opinion piece on a right bias website provides the facts on the matter Link to comment
ActualCornHusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said: Opinion piece on a right bias website provides the facts on the matter *sigh* How about a left leaning source? Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: You're not talking about the same point as me. I'm referring to Bernie specifically identifying as a socialist. I've already said that I'm not inherently opposed to universal healthcare. It's not the best system available, but it appears to be the direction we're heading, so that is what it is I guess... And Im asking, what specific policies is Sanders proposing that would qualify as socialism? Nobody can ever seem to answer that question. Has he proposed the govt taking over Nike and Adidas? Youre kind of backed into a corner now because youve already conceded that if roads, military, libraries, 911 etc is not socialism than Sanders specific policy proposals cannot be socialism either. 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: *sigh* How about a left leaning source? No one here wants to follow the models of China, NK, Cuba, etc. Some members want to follow the models of Sweden, Canada, Germany, etc. Which where clearly called "not socialist" nations in the article. So it sounds like people are wasting a lot of time focusing on a "word" rather than an "idea".... 3 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: *sigh* How about a left leaning source? Politico is far from progressive media. It is corporate media owned by people who have a lot to lose should Warren or Sanders be elected. Far from unbiased. Link to comment
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