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4 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

I'm not disagreeing with you but Trump will certainly find a way to attack Klobuchar if she became his opponent. It's all he knows and he will look for any angle and latch on. I don't think we should worry about that part of it. That said Klobuchar is a solid candidate 

It is one thing for him to attach Hillary - Hillary had her own unlikable baggage.  It is anther to attack Klobuchar.   I'm sure 'small hands' will find a way regardless.  He is too much of a childish narcissistic to do otherwise.

 

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12 hours ago, QMany said:

You're correct, Trump's bribes for ginned-up foreign election interference seem to have worked. 

 

It would have been better for Biden if it had.  If UKR would have done an 'investigation' there'd be a story for Biden to attack.  Instead he got 6 months of Hunter Biden____Ukraine____$50,000 a month.  And Joe could only say it wasn't so. 

 

11 hours ago, teachercd said:

You could be right.  I guess I don't know anyone that is so easily influenced.  But I am sure there are people out there like that.

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11 hours ago, BIGREDIOWAN said:

 

This is exactly the case I tried to make yesterday.

 

Can Sanders win the election? Yes. Absolutely, unequivocally. Anyone of them can win. He's got a strong shot through the Rust Belt.

 

Will he help elect a Congress that will enact his agenda? Absolutely not. He's going to be a big liability in a lot of purple districts and Senate races.

 

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In anxious huddles around the Capitol, apprehensive Democrats are sharing their worries that Sanders' socialist label and unyielding embrace of controversial proposals like "Medicare for All" and the Green New Deal will repel voters in the affluent, moderate districts that flipped House control in 2018 and in closely divided states where Republican senators are vulnerable.

 

The Vermont independent narrowly won New Hampshire Tuesday on the heels of a strong showing in Iowa and is widely seen as a front-runner, along with former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

 

“I'm a proud capitalist,” said freshman Rep. Ben McAdams, D-Utah, in pointed contrast with Sanders. McAdams, who is supporting former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and whose Salt Lake City district will be among the toughest for Democrats to defend, said having a liberal like Sanders atop his party's ticket “would probably give me more opportunities to show my independence” from the party.


Another freshman from a competitive district, Rep. Tom Malinowski, D-N.J., said Democrats need a presidential nominee who “doesn't scare all those future former Republicans more than Trump scares them." And while acknowledging that Republicans plan to tar all Democrats with the socialist label, ”There's one candidate for whom that would not be a lie.”

 

Rep. Dina Titus, D-Nev., who backs the candidacy of former Vice President Joe Biden, warned a group of Democratic voters this week in Carson City, Nevada, that with Sanders atop the ticket, “you're not going to take back the Senate. There's not any way, because everybody's going to be tarred with the same brush. We will probably lose seats in the House.”

 

In private conversations, other Democrats are more succinct. One House Democrat said colleagues from swing districts are scared by the prospects of a Sanders nomination, while another said moderates are increasingly concerned that a Sanders candidacy would devastate their prospects for winning the White House and retaining the House. The lawmakers insisted on anonymity to describe private conversations.

 

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9 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

This is exactly the case I tried to make yesterday.

 

Can Sanders win the election? Yes. Absolutely, unequivocally. Anyone of them can win. He's got a strong shot through the Rust Belt.

 

Will he help elect a Congress that will enact his agenda? Absolutely not. He's going to be a big liability in a lot of purple districts and Senate races.

 

 

But why?  Is it because he is unlikeable or because his ideas are crazy?

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10 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

It would have been better for Biden if it had.  If UKR would have done an 'investigation' there'd be a story for Biden to attack.  Instead he got 6 months of Hunter Biden____Ukraine____$50,000 a month.  And Joe could only say it wasn't so. 

 

Almost as if Trump only cared about the announcement!?! 

 

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1 hour ago, teachercd said:

But why?  Is it because he is unlikeable or because his ideas are crazy?

 

Its because hes a crazy radical.  Everyone knows, especially in purple districts, that they LOVE getting ripped off on their prescription drugs!  They also love going bankrupt from medical bills.  Its the best feeling EVER!

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Purple district democratic congressman: No, I don't think you should have healthcare, lower prescription drug prices or get an education because that's socialism!

 

*gets voted out*

 

Congressman: Its Bernie Sanders fault!!!

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6 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:

 

Its because hes a crazy radical.  Everyone knows, especially in purple districts, that they LOVE getting ripped off on their prescription drugs!  They also love going bankrupt from medical bills.  Its the best feeling EVER!

If he wins, I can't wait to see how happy people are the day after he takes office and waves his wand and makes all college debt disappear!  

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4 minutes ago, teachercd said:

If he wins, I can't wait to see how happy people are the day after he takes office and waves his wand and makes all college debt disappear!  


Well thats not on his day 1 agenda. Legalizing marijuana through and executive order is though! Jan 20, 2021 is about to be LIT!

 

The food service industry better be ready!

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8 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:

Purple district democratic congressman: No, I don't think you should have healthcare, lower prescription drug prices or get an education because that's socialism!

 

*gets voted out*

 

Congressman: Its Bernie Sanders fault!!!

 

I'm assuming you're snarking at the argument because you know it's correct.

 

But if you could kindly point me towards the Sanders-style progressives that won in these states and districts in 2018, I'd love to see them.

 

I'll wait.

 

Also those issues are all part of other candidates agendas as well...

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5 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

I'm assuming you're snarking at the argument because you know it's correct.

 

But if you could kindly point me towards the Sanders-style progressives that won in these states and districts in 2018, I'd love to see them.

 

I'll wait.

 

Also those issues are all part of other candidates agendas as well...


Did they run in those “purple” districts with adequate funding at their disposal?  Hard to win an election when youre up against the machine and cant get your message to the voters. 
 

Were about to see what a progressive candidate with unlimited money at their disposal in a purple district can do in CA25. 
 

No, its not their agenda. Public option does not do anything about prices as it keeps insurance companies in charge  Democrats run the house, yet their prescription drug prices bill only allowed 25 drugs to be negotiated for the next 10 years. WOW! How bold and progressive! 25 whole drugs! Give me a break. They work for the drug companies and insurance companies. 

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8 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

I'm assuming you're snarking at the argument because you know it's correct.

 

But if you could kindly point me towards the Sanders-style progressives that won in these states and districts in 2018, I'd love to see them.

 

I'll wait.

 

Also those issues are all part of other candidates agendas as well...

I still don't know if the 

 

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12 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

This is exactly the case I tried to make yesterday.

 

Can Sanders win the election? Yes. Absolutely, unequivocally. Anyone of them can win. He's got a strong shot through the Rust Belt.

 

Will he help elect a Congress that will enact his agenda? Absolutely not. He's going to be a big liability in a lot of purple districts and Senate races.

 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if people could run and be elected on their own merits and not be victims of the assumption that they will vote along party lines no matter what?

 

First, I guess, politicians would have to grow a spine and stand up to their parties once in a while...

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This is probably an unpopular opinion, but if Bloomberg wins the Dem nomination, I'm not voting for him in the general election.

 

To be clear, I don't think he'll win the Dem nomination, I'm just talking possibilities.

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Where is Rodney King when we need him?  The Dems need to play nice or they will blow this thing

 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/483054-carville-fires-back-at-sanders-for-hack-slam-at-least-im-not-a-communist

 

 

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James Carville fired back at Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for calling him "a political hack," calling the self-described democratic socialist "a communist."
 
The back and forth follows a week in which Carville has repeatedly sounded the alarm about a potential Sanders match-up against President Trump in November, calling the scenario "the end of days" for the Democratic Party while referring to Sanders supporters as "a cult."
 
Sanders returned fire on Wednesday night during an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, arguing that "political hack" Carville represents the establishment his campaign is running against.
 
"James, in all due respect, is a political hack," Sanders said. "We are taking on Trump, the Republican establishment, Carville and the Democratic establishment. But at the end of the day, the grassroots movement that we are putting together — of young people, of working people, of people of color — want real change."
 
Carville, who worked as a campaign strategist for former President Clinton, escalated the feud Thursday on Snapchat with former CNN reporter Peter Hamby.

"Last night on CNN, Bernie Sanders called me a political hack,” Carville said. “That’s exactly who the f--- I am! I am a political hack! I am not an ideologue. I am not a purist. He thinks it’s a pejorative. I kind of like it! At least I’m not a communist.”

 

 

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