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Hello all,

 

The following is an updated and summarized guideline of Huskerboard’s policy surrounding politically-themed content, specifically in areas outside of the Politics & Religion (P&R) sub forum, though not exclusively. If you have questions or concerns, please comment below or send a private message to a board moderator or admin.

 

No politically-themed content in status updates

Please do not share news or commentary related to politics, policies, elected officials, the president, or topics that would fall under the political umbrella. The P&R forum is the only place to share these opinions and discuss a candidate, elected official, or policy.

 

No politically-themed content in Huskerboard user profiles

This limitation extends to profile avatars, user names, signatures, and other forward-facing aspects of user profiles including those featured in posts and updates. Moderator/admin discretion will determine what is acceptable and what isn't.

 

Deference will not be given to ambiguity

If a mod or admin believes some element of a user profile violates any of the above, that user will be required to remove the violation. Refusal to do so in a timely fashion may result in the account being moderated and/or suspended until the violation is corrected. The account may also face a ban if the violation is deemed intentional, the user has a history of abusing this policy, or at moderator/admin discretion.

 

Only members with a minimum of 250 posts will be granted access to the Politics & Religion sub-forum

The limit is in place to prevent abuse of the P&R sub-forum, however, Board Guidelines will still be enforced to the fullest extent once a member is granted access. If a moderator/admin believes a member with less than 250 posts is trying to improperly increase their post count in order to access the sub-forum, the member in question may face penalties up to and including a Huskerboard account ban. Actions that may be considered improper include, but are not limited to, multiple and repeated posts in the 'Last to Post Wins' thread, multiple posts in a thread when a single post would've sufficed, or multiple posts across several threads that appear to be of no real value.

 

If this behavior is uncovered posthumously, after a member is granted access to the P&R sub-forum, that member may still be held accountable for their actions up to and including a Huskerboard account ban.

 

Why such a hardline stance against politics?

Most users come here for the primary reason of discussing Husker sports. The board has experienced situations in the past where political debates made their way into other forums outside of P&R. These debates often featured personal attacks or other board violations. Some members have also complained the political spillover into other parts of the board is a turn off. Keeping political discussions inside the P&R forum gives users a specific place they can go to discuss these topics.

 

As always, any political comments made in the P&R section must adhere to our Board Rules.

 

Thank you,

Huskerboard's Leadership Team
 

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(This is actually a pretty good idea, and one we should have done a while ago)

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16 minutes ago, Enhance said:

As such, since football season is here and this is primarily a Husker message board, the leadership team is requesting members limit their political/religious discussion to the P&R forum and keep it out of the status updates. What does that mean? For example, no more status updates on policies or actions taken by our president or elected officials. No more lambasting an elected official or another poster’s political views for their opinions on candidates or policies. 

 

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Does that mean one can no longer say anything politically or religiously themed in the status updates? No. However, we ask each and every one of you to maintain good judgement when posting something. If you think what you’re going to post could cause members of the opposite political party to argue inappropriately with you, posting your thoughts in P&R might be more advantageous. Should a political/religious-themed post start to generate discussion in a negative way, a member of the leadership team will likely lock and/or move the discussion to P&R. 

 

A little more clarity may be helpful. 

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I think the main point is to stay away from the stuff that is just going to lead to bickering.  That can stay in the P&R Forum.

 

We've not trying to say that stuff like "Make sure you vote today" or "Asking for prayers for my surgery" can't ever be in there.

 

But stuff like "[Insert politician here] doing this again" or "If god was real he would/wouldn't ....." isn't productive, takes away from the main focus of the board - Husker sports, especially football - and many would appreciate not having to wade through that to find other information they really came here to find.  That can have a place in the forum where people who are more interested in those conversations know where to find it.

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While I agree with this idea, and will happily comply, I think "the main focus of the board" conversation should be addressed. HuskerBoard started out as a message board for Husker Fans, but it has, thankfully, branched out into a much broader spectrum of conversation.  On this board you will find good conversations about:

 

Politics & Religion

Food (Thanks, Roxy!)

Streaming

Computers & Gaming

General Life Stuff

Television, movies & streaming

A lot of general nonsense (which is usually entertaining)

 

HuskerBoard is no longer - and should not strive to be - solely a place to discuss Husker sports. 

 

We're the Wal-Mart of message boards. We started out offering generic goods, but branched out into grocery, automotive, sports, TVs, etc.  That should be the future of this board, with the obvious acknowledgement that Husker Football will always be the engine that drives the car.

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10 minutes ago, knapplc said:

While I agree with this idea, and will happily comply, I think "the main focus of the board" conversation should be addressed. HuskerBoard started out as a message board for Husker Fans, but it has, thankfully, branched out into a much broader spectrum of conversation.  On this board you will find good conversations about:

 

Politics & Religion

Food (Thanks, Roxy!)

Streaming

Computers & Gaming

General Life Stuff

Television, movies & streaming

A lot of general nonsense (which is usually entertaining)

 

HuskerBoard is no longer - and should not strive to be - solely a place to discuss Husker sports. 

 

We're the Wal-Mart of message boards. We started out offering generic goods, but branched out into grocery, automotive, sports, TVs, etc.  That should be the future of this board, with the obvious acknowledgement that Husker Football will always be the engine that drives the car.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that. I certainly don't.

 

But I will add that none of those other topics lead to as many issues as P&R content. And it's really ramped up the last year. I'd also say it's safe to say that the reports/complaints we get regarding P&R related topics is vastly related to status updates, because they're the easiest way to post to the entire board, and get the most eyes.

 

We try to keep this place as open and honest as possible, and I know that some people like to use HB as an escape. We also want to attract newcomers, and since status updates are kind of a "front door" into HB, the mod/admin team feels that this is the best way to keep a clean appearance on first impression.

 

I want it to be clear that in no way are we trying to pick a side, or tell anyone they can't talk about that stuff. We're just asking that we keep it in those forums in an attempt to help us minimize arguing & trolling on the front page.

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While discussing Status Updates, is there a fix so that when trying to open replies it doesn't have to open another page? We used to be able to dropdown replies and stay on the homepage. 

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I agree with the intent and I think most posters understand that intent. But I also think some posters may struggle with controlling themselves within that intent. It has been obvious those who post political stuff in status updates just to illicit a contrary reaction or start an argument (trolling). That is what I believe is and should be controlled. But, I think in the end it is going to come down to mods and admins enforcing the desired standard. Most of us will be happy to comply....some likely won't be.  My personal opinion is, the less bickering I see about Trump, the dems, whatever political BS, the better. I'm fed up with it. I don't need to be reminded 24-7 what an idiot Trump is. Anybody who doesn't realize it by this point in time is probably never going to come around.  It is why I have not been active in the P&R forum and why I (for the most part) have avoided those discussions. I sure don't want to see it play out in the status updates, which in a way, is the public face of this board.

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1 minute ago, El Diaco said:

I agree with the intent and I think most posters understand that intent. But I also think some posters may struggle with controlling themselves within that intent. It has been obvious those who post political stuff in status updates just to illicit a contrary reaction or start an argument (trolling). That is what I believe is and should be controlled. But, I think in the end it is going to come down to mods and admins enforcing the desired standard. Most of us will be happy to comply....some likely won't be.  My personal opinion is, the less bickering I see about Trump, the dems, whatever political BS, the better. I'm fed up with it. I don't need to be reminded 24-7 what an idiot Trump is. Anybody who doesn't realize it by this point in time is probably never going to come around.  It is why I have not been active in the P&R forum and why I (for the most part) have avoided those discussions. I sure don't want to see it play out in the status updates, which in a way, is the public face of this board.

This is definitely one of the main reasons we came together as a team, discussed it, and had a vote before making this decision. Now that the season is starting back up, we get alot more traffic from non-regulars, so we wanted to have this new policy in place before the season started.

 

Going forward, we'll deal with those types of posts with less leniency than we had in the recent past.

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For the record, I almost always leaned towards continuing to allow P&R-themed status updates until some recent events.

 

I don't think we should make Huskerboard a place where Husker sports is the only topic worthy of discussion and I hope the OP didn't make it seem like that's what anybody wants. But, I think Saunders and Mav provide some strong context as to why this is the best decision moving forward.

 

Ultimately, most people find us because we're a Husker message board. I'd wager most people who find us through Google (like I did 10 years ago) were looking for a place to talk Husker sports and not food, movies or politics. That doesn't mean those conversations can't flourish, but I think we should be cautious about what we're presenting on the page that gets the most eye balls, and how that information is being presented.

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27 minutes ago, knapplc said:

While I agree with this idea, and will happily comply, I think "the main focus of the board" conversation should be addressed. HuskerBoard started out as a message board for Husker Fans, but it has, thankfully, branched out into a much broader spectrum of conversation.  On this board you will find good conversations about:

 

Yeah, perhaps "main" wasn't quite the correct term.  Perhaps "primary" would be closer?

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I understand the decision and don't necessarily disagree. But I do think the Status Updates do provide value for political events (not trolling, of course). With all of the crazy events that have transpired regarding the presidency, there are a number of Trump related threads. It is sometimes impossible to get caught up on all the crazy actions. I think the Status Updates help serve as a news notification for some, myself included. But I understand there is a fine line. 

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25 minutes ago, QMany said:

While discussing Status Updates, is there a fix so that when trying to open replies it doesn't have to open another page? We used to be able to dropdown replies and stay on the homepage. 

 

Still working on this.  It's now an add-on to the board.  I'm testing the process of adding a separate add-on (smaller scale) to make sure everything works correctly but something isn't loading correctly.  Once we get that figured out, we'll try to get the add-on implemented to "fix" the status updates.

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9 minutes ago, QMany said:

I understand the decision and don't necessarily disagree. But I do think the Status Updates do provide value for political events (not trolling, of course). With all of the crazy events that have transpired regarding the presidency, there are a number of Trump related threads. It is sometimes impossible to get caught up on all the crazy actions. I think the Status Updates help serve as a news notification for some, myself included. But I understand there is a fine line. 

 

I also agree with this. Sadly, I gather most of my news and heads up of current events from Huskerboard.  I just cannot stand to watch any TV news and I don't have the inclination to go looking for news on other sites. The handy thing is when someone posts that such and such happened in a status update and then I am aware and go search further information if I want. But, as you say, it can be a fine line between posting something factual that has happened and taking a shot at Trump or beginning to troll the subject. It probably comes down to wording, presentation and subtlety. And that's why mods get paid the big bucks ;)

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Translation:  Everyone here already knows what everyone else thinks on every topic about politics.  Stop posting it in the status updates.

 

Can I still post sweet updates like "What time you are heading to Lincoln for the game?"  and "Hey, ED...how stop playing with your dingy"

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While we're on the subject of status updates and maybe adding a module that won't take us off the home page, I've noticed something else that doesn't seem kosher.  Every once in awhile an update appears that looks to have been intended only between two individual posters. i.e. earlier today there was one from garn to teacher, and there have been maybe another 10 I've noticed since the board update.

 

1- Why does what appears to be a message for only one poster show to everyone?  Seems it could be a little misleading for the originator thinking only the recipient will see it.

2- Is there any purpose for this when we have the ability to PM people?

3- How in the heck do you even do this? I haven't noticed anything that would lead me to think I was posting a status update for only one person.  I'm cornfused. 

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32 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Translation:  Everyone here already knows what everyone else thinks on every topic about politics.  Stop posting it in the status updates.

 

Can I still post sweet updates like "What time you are heading to Lincoln for the game?"  and "Hey, ED...how stop playing with your dingy"

teach- We've discussed this :facepalm:.....there's never any reason to stop playing with your dingy :lol:

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1 hour ago, saunders45 said:

I'll let you know after I've decided whether or not to ban you.

 

;)

Ha...okay okay!  

 

I might just forget to PM you with the useless inside info I get!

41 minutes ago, El Diaco said:

teach- We've discussed this :facepalm:.....there's never any reason to stop playing with your dingy :lol:

So very true

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Can we post status updates referring to a P&R thread? Like for example, "We're discussing Trump's proposed tax changes in this thread: <link to thread>". That seems like a reasonable way to handle this, but I also see the potential for that to get out of hand based on the wording of the status update.

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7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Can we post status updates referring to a P&R thread? Like for example, "We're discussing Trump's proposed tax changes in this thread: <link to thread>". That seems like a reasonable way to handle this, but I also see the potential for that to get out of hand based on the wording of the status update.

That's a great question. I don't personally have a problem with that because it's not an opinion or an opportunity to editorialize a political issue. Instead, you'd be directing members to engage in a conversation elsewhere.

 

In this example, I would simply reiterate to use fair judgement. Not every thread or topic deserves to have people mention something about it in the status updates. I don't think people do it very often as it is. Plus, delivery matters. Saying it as you did is OK, but if someone says something like 'Come discuss the stupid thing candidate X is proposing in this thread <link to thread>" then that's a problem.

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26 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Can we post status updates referring to a P&R thread? Like for example, "We're discussing Trump's proposed tax changes in this thread: <link to thread>". That seems like a reasonable way to handle this, but I also see the potential for that to get out of hand based on the wording of the status update.

 

Testing this idea right now with a provocative Status Update, complete with a link.  We'll see how it goes.

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I always thought that this was a Husker message board and so politics and religion could be taken to other boards. I do not mind it but I don't see the point of discussing it when we can talk about Husker sports. The P&R forum is fine for those who love to talk about political ideas and it seems right to not allow spillover into status updates. Great job mods and admins for all you do to make this board better. :thumbs

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So, if you seriously want to hear our opinions, I have one to offer. 

You have a set of board rules, but when some of the "legends" and even worse the board moderators troll with thinly masked insults toward board members, and said member then responds...with something perhaps a little less thinly veiled, perhaps the first instinct of the mods shouldn't be to circle the wagons and start to threaten the person who was first attacked. 

I agree that discussions of politics and religion can lead to some pretty heated words being thrown back-and-forth, but when we are discussing the Huskers and some "legend" who obviously thinks he/she is more informed or brighter than the other members, feels they have carte blanche to attack, because if the person retaliates (with words mind you), their fellow mods and admins will support them and ban or throw strikes at the OP. It makes this a less than inviting and friendly place. It makes it a place for a small little click of insiders to throw around their opinions and pretend they know more than everyone else and put people down with impunity because they know there will be no retribution and if (usually when) someone puts them in their place and explains to them the limits of their knowledge or intellect, that person's comments will be removed and that person will be threatened with banning. 

so...my suggestion, either stop threatening someone when they trash-talk back to someone who calls them out...or simply start treating all board members equally and stop having the backs of the "old timers" and "legends". In other words, stop giving your Mod and Admin friends the reach-around treatment. 

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@California Husker, I would be happy to discuss your concerns further. If you don't want to talk specifics here, feel free to PM me.

 

I'll be honest - it's difficult to process your post because of its generalities.:thumbs

 

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Sometimes it's a little crazy how seriously we take our football disagreements. Guys, it's just football. We may be right. We may be wrong. Let's see how the games shake out :)

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1 hour ago, Enhance said:

OP and thread title have been updated to be more encompassing.

 

I would include a line that people who are known to have done this in the past will not be given the benefit of the doubt on ambiguous status updates. Anything that can be tied to a political event or person will also be removed, and appropriate action taken against the person violating the rule.

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59 minutes ago, commando said:

what about user names like 45timesbetterthanemptysuit?

Currently being discussed!

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wonder if a lot of libs reported every post that had "thanks obama" in it.   bet i was reported 100 times if they did.

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1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

And there is always the last, ultimate option.

 

Politics and Religion forum........

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It's been talked about in the past but, ultimately, I'm not a fan of it. We've also had suggested mandating a password plus a minimum post limit (the latter is a more recent suggestion). The latter would have also eliminated quite a few issues we had in the last 18 months or so.

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25 minutes ago, Enhance said:

It's been talked about in the past but, ultimately, I'm not a fan of it. We've also had suggested mandating a password plus a minimum post limit (the latter is a more recent suggestion). The latter would have also eliminated quite a few issues we had in the last 18 months or so.

Honestly, I'd hate to see it go away also but some days, many recently, it seems like a viable option. I just wish it wasn't such a focal point of the board for some. It used to be a fairly significant attraction for me. I've just become fed up with it being little more than a forum to complain about Trump. Probably warranted but man does it get old.

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1 minute ago, JJ Husker said:

I just wish it wasn't such a focal point of the board for some.

FWIW, I'm with you. It takes up more time than it should and for a variety of reasons.

 

The tough thing is that most board members, particularly our more seasoned members, handle it quite well because they're familiar with the rules. It's also a good off season forum. We tend to have way more problems with newer members. And, for whatever reason recently, we've garnered membership from people whose sole purpose is to debate P&R. A lot of those people don't seem to be that interested in honest debate, either, which leads to accusations of sock accounts. We've uncovered many sock accounts this way, too.

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17 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

And there is always the last, ultimate option.

 

Politics and Religion forum........

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Went ahead and made the OP much more concise. Some of the info. in the OP was two years old and specifically tied into the football season, and we now take a more broad approach to P&R limitations.

 

Hopefully, this new format is easier to parse through and understand.

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So, no decision (or a "no" decision) on making access to P&R based on a post count or board membership time?

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A decision has yet to be made on that piece or even really discussed up to this point (still sorting through a few other more immediate items at the moment).

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2 hours ago, knapplc said:

So, no decision (or a "no" decision) on making access to P&R based on a post count or board membership time?

We're having an Ent-Moot to discuss it. We can't be too hasty.

 

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The P&R policy has been updated with a new limitation - only members with a minimum of 250 posts will be allowed to participate in the P&R sub-forum. Please see the OP of this thread for full details.

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While I am under no delusion that anyone will miss me in there or notice I am gone.  Nor do I want to just go echo what everyone has already said a dozen times before I read threads in the football forum just to up a counter.  So just let me say it seems a bit arbitrary, the 250 post count, so you earned yourself an eye-roll Enhance, as I'm not above shooting the messenger(a passive aggressive emote that is). ;)

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1 hour ago, methodical said:

While I am under no delusion that anyone will miss me in there or notice I am gone.  Nor do I want to just go echo what everyone has already said a dozen times before I read threads in the football forum just to up a counter.  So just let me say it seems a bit arbitrary, the 250 post count, so you earned yourself an eye-roll Enhance, as I'm not above shooting the messenger(a passive aggressive emote that is). ;)

 

While it does have unintended consequences for people like you endeavor to engage in meaningful conversation, I think the post limit is a good rule.

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19 hours ago, methodical said:

While I am under no delusion that anyone will miss me in there or notice I am gone.  Nor do I want to just go echo what everyone has already said a dozen times before I read threads in the football forum just to up a counter.  So just let me say it seems a bit arbitrary, the 250 post count, so you earned yourself an eye-roll Enhance, as I'm not above shooting the messenger(a passive aggressive emote that is). ;)

The figure was debated among the leadership team so using 'arbitrary' as an adjective here is lacking in context. 250 posts is enough activity to act as a hindrance to someone who wants to join the board and violate board rules in P&R. But, it's within grasp of someone who wants to be a consistent contributor, and it gives us an opportunity to gauge how that person may behave as a board member in general.

 

And speaking personally, and not on behalf of the leadership team, I don't think this is the appropriate board to join if the main interest is to discuss P&R.

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41 minutes ago, Enhance said:

The figure was debated among the leadership team so using 'arbitrary' as an adjective here is lacking in context. 250 posts is enough activity to act as a hindrance to someone who wants to join the board and violate board rules in P&R. But, it's within grasp of someone who wants to be a consistent contributor, and it gives us an opportunity to gauge how that person may behave as a board member in general.

  

And speaking personally, and not on behalf of the leadership team, I don't think this is the appropriate board to join if the main interest is to discuss P&R.

 

I think you're making a leap there, personally. The fact that I don't contribute nearly as much to the football forum doesn't mean it isn't my main interest here and why I joined the board originally. I read it to stay current on what is going on and what I would add, would there be anything I felt compelled to, has usually already been said.  Where as P&R was interesting discussions with less of the same views as me.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, methodical said:

The fact that I don't contribute nearly as much to the football forum doesn't mean it isn't my main interest here and why I joined the board originally.

Unfortunately, there's no way to grandfather a user or make exceptions. It's either all or nothing.

 

And to be clear, this isn't intended to be a slight against low-post users who approach the forum rationally, although it is a consequence we're willing to accept. It's the direct result of multiple violations from newer users. So, although I don't understand why someone would join the board to primarily post in P&R, it's mostly irrelevant to the larger issue which is people joining Huskerboard for the apparent purpose of breaking board rules in P&R.

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1 hour ago, methodical said:

 

I think you're making a leap there, personally. The fact that I don't contribute nearly as much to the football forum doesn't mean it isn't my main interest here and why I joined the board originally. I read it to stay current on what is going on and what I would add, would there be anything I felt compelled to, has usually already been said.  Where as P&R was interesting discussions with less of the same views as me.

 

 

You seem to be a very level-headed and insightful guy, hopefully you can get your post count up so we can see more of you in P&R. Go to the football forum and let loose, then come back!

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