knapplc Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Quote Supreme Court hands Democrats a win in Virginia racial gerrymander case In a victory for Democrats in Virginia, the Supreme Court held Monday that the Republican-led Virginia House of Delegates did not have the legal right to challenge a lower court opinion that struck several district maps they had drawn as an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. This means court-ordered maps that favored Democrats will continue to be used. The decision will have an immediate impact on Virginia's fall legislative elections at a crucial time. The state, once reliably Republican, has slowly drifted left. Republicans have not won a statewide race since 2009, but they have held on to both the Senate and House by slim margins. This fall, every state legislative seat is up for re-election and the GOP holds only a two-seat advantage in both chambers. Had the court ruled in favor of the Republican challenge, it would've greatly improved their chances of holding on to the House of Delegates. Twenty-six House districts were re-aligned by an outside expert after a lower court ruled 11 districts unconstitutional. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, knapplc said: I don’t like the headlines on this one. They’re handing democracy a win. It’s not relevant which party it’s better for. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Moiraine said: I don’t like the headlines on this one. They’re handing democracy a win. It’s not relevant which party it’s better for. Yes indeed. For what goes around, comes around. Let democracy win and you don't have to worry about fairness when the other party has control 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Breaking: Republicans rule that Republicans can do things that are good for Republicans. 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 For reference, Republicans have long held the view that things that help Republicans are legal and things that hurt them are not. 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I can't decide whether this or Citizens United is the worst decision of my lifetime. Imagine anyone arguing in good faith this is good for democracy... 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, QMany said: I can't decide whether this or Citizens United is the worst decision of my lifetime. Imagine anyone arguing in good faith this is good for democracy... At this point you can't argue in good faith. Anybody arguing in favor of partisan gerrymandering, regardless of why, is an asshat. It's a bad day for democracy, full stop. This was unexpected. With any luck, Ross and the Republicans looking to use this strictly as a way to transfer power away from Democratic areas to Republican areas will not have the time to draw up a new explanation for why this power grab is necessary and re-implement it for next year's census. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 There is something deliciously ironic about the Trump admin's rather corrupt intentions being done in by their own hubris. 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: For reference, Republicans have long held the view that things that help Republicans are legal and things that hurt them are not. Let's take a look at the 5... Thomas - Part of Bush v. Gore majority, which wasn't a political issue beyond the reach of the courts? Roberts - Nominated by George W. Bush, who lost the popular vote. Alito - Nominated by George W. Bush, who lost the popular vote. Gorsuch - Seat stolen from Garland. Nominated by Donald Trump, who lost the popular vote. Kavanaugh - Nominated by Donald Trump, who lost the popular vote. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, QMany said: Let's take a look at the 5... Thomas - Part of Bush v. Gore majority, which wasn't a political issue beyond the reach of the courts? Roberts - Nominated by George W. Bush, who lost the popular vote. Alito - Nominated by George W. Bush, who lost the popular vote. Gorsuch - Seat stolen from Garland. Nominated by Donald Trump, who lost the popular vote. Kavanaugh - Nominated by Donald Trump, who lost the popular vote. The more I think about it the more it ticks me off. They're essentially saying "We have no say here, it's on voters and representatives to figure this out." How are voters supposed to override corrupt representatives who monkey with democracy when the latter literally draws their own maps? AND cracks down on ballot measures that would give voters an end-around? It's just maddening. I'm sure none of those 5 will lose sleep tonight over it, though. Viva la GOP. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Everyday, the weight of this rock we need to crawl out from gets heavier. At some point I'm going to have to stop shaking my head sadly and start advocating revolution. 3 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: The more I think about it the more it ticks me off. They're essentially saying "We have no say here, it's on voters and representatives to figure this out." How are voters supposed to override corrupt representatives who monkey with democracy when the latter literally draws their own maps? AND cracks down on ballot measures that would give voters an end-around? It's just maddening. I'm sure none of those 5 will lose sleep tonight over it, though. Viva la GOP. It's an extremely disappointing ruling. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: If Democrats ever have control of the federal government again, I think creating laws to prevent gerrymandering should be their #1 goal. 3 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Wow. Can't win without cheating. 1 2 Link to comment
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