HuskerInLostWages Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 "Nebraska is simply not the program it once was when Osborne and Osborne’s legendary predecessor — Bob Devaney — were stalking the sidelines and steamrolling the competition with their I-formation and triple-option offenses. If the Nebraska job were such a great job then why are the last three coaches hired named Bill Callahan, Bo Pelini and Mike Riley? This sounds like a pool of candidates for NC State, not Nebraska. " Orlando Sentinel full Article Here Momma might be calling, Scott. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Says every coach in sports....up until he takes a new job. Quote Remember when the Oregon job opened up last year and the natural assumption was that Frost — the Ducks’ former offensive coordinator — would become a candidate? He quickly pulled himself out of contention because, as he said, “UCF is where I want to be. When you recruit kids to come play for you and you agree to do something for a program; when you give your word to people, I think it's your responsibility to see those things through. I started something here and I want to see it through.” This article is nothing more than a local UCF sports writer writing something trying to convince Frost to stay. 8 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, unlfan said: The article is all accurate in my opinion with one big exception - not one person would expect him to duplicate the success of Osborne. Your faith in the ENTIRE Husker fan base exceeds mine. 3 Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 minute ago, unlfan said: The writer is 100% correct in my opinion with one big exception - not one person would expect him to duplicate the success of Osborne. Ummm... have you been paying attention to HB (or your own posts) lately? 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 And...let's not act like recruiting to UCF is some amazingly easy thing to do. Yes, he doesn't have to travel far to visit players. But, they are currently ranked 63rd with 15 recruits. So.....it's not like he is going after the same type of players Florida, FSU and Miami are going after. UCF's average player rating is 83.62 Nebraska is sitting with 10 players with an average of 89.41 Nebraska has a total of two players below UCF's average rating.....and one of those is a kicker. 2 Quote Link to comment
HuskerInLostWages Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Says every coach in sports....up until he takes a new job. This article is nothing more than a local UCF sports writer writing something trying to convince Frost to stay. I'm sure everyone understands that, even the 4 comments on the article state that the money alone would be enough for him to take the job. We know it, and they know it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post knapplc Posted September 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2017 Couple of things from that column about Frost: "After all, there's a reason Nebraska hasn't won a conference title in nearly 20 years." OK, what's that reason? Without diagnosing the reason, this is just hot air. If you know what ails Nebraska, out with it, Mr. Sportswriter. We could sure use a diagnosis so we can start fixing our ills. "If he does that then he could leave UCF for a much better job than Nebraska." What "much better job?" One that pays more? We have pockets as deep as anyone. One with better facilities? There aren't ten schools better set up than Nebraska. One with a more on-board fan base? Not gonna find that. One with easier expectations? See, the trick about being a hot-commodity coach is, you're going to be expected to win wherever you go. If you're taking a "better" job than Nebraska the pressure to win won't be any less, and the consequences of failing to live up to expectations won't be any different. Nebraska is a sleeping giant. As Eichorst & Riley both said after the NIU debacle, we have everything we need to succeed right here, right now. A competent coach could come in and right this ship very quickly. I'm not sure if the writer is saying Frost isn't that coach, or if he's saying Nebraska isn't going to be easy to fix. If the former, maybe he's right, but that's about Frost, not Nebraska. If it's the latter, he's wrong, and all of college football will find that out when we get the right staff in here. 10 Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 For somebody so understanding of coaching and the difficulties in trying to bring a program back to dominance, you seem to be pretty quick to damn Riley. In fact, your attacks appear to be pretty opportunistic. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I said in another thread earlier this week. I'm not convinced that Frost is the answer to our problems. People who key in on him and claim we NEED to get him, are ignoring a lot of other possibilities (for which I have no names to throw out because I don't follow such things). My guess is though that either Nebraska is is dream job...or he has absolutely no desire to come back. I really don't see it being anywhere in between. If he doesn't want to come back...so be it and we need to have a much broader scope of coaches we look at. Quote Link to comment
Fru Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If Scott was in his 5th or 6th year at UCF I'd feel more confident in him coming to DONU. 4 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Right there with you, BRB. I have no idea if Frost is at his ceiling right now or the next great coach. If he'll come here and make us competitive in our division again, fine bring him in. But if there's a more-proven coach out there that we can get, then let's get that guy. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Quite frankly, if we go through 3 failed coaches with no Nebraska ties and the only way we get back to being competitive is to bring Frost back......that's pretty concerning for the long term sustainability of our program. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 As much as many of us would like to have Frost come for the 'emotional' side of it, I too, like BRB, Fru and Knapp, wish he was more seasoned as a HC. Therefore we have to bring on the best possible hire now, not what 'might' be the guy with the best potential. As Knapp said - we don't know if he is at his ceiling now or if there is a lot of great potential still to be revealed. With the last 3 hires, we failed to get the best possible coach - we settled for less. NU deserves more. Time to hire the best available right now without being delusional - thinking we could get Sabin or even Stoops. (sure I'd take them if they wanted to come - but I don't think there is any 'want' there) Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, knapplc said: Couple of things from that column about Frost: "After all, there's a reason Nebraska hasn't won a conference title in nearly 20 years." OK, what's that reason? Without diagnosing the reason, this is just hot air. If you know what ails Nebraska, out with it, Mr. Sportswriter. We could sure use a diagnosis so we can start fixing our ills. "If he does that then he could leave UCF for a much better job than Nebraska." What "much better job?" One that pays more? We have pockets as deep as anyone. One with better facilities? There aren't ten schools better set up than Nebraska. One with a more on-board fan base? Not gonna find that. One with easier expectations? See, the trick about being a hot-commodity coach is, you're going to be expected to win wherever you go. If you're taking a "better" job than Nebraska the pressure to win won't be any less, and the consequences of failing to live up to expectations won't be any different.Nebraska is a sleeping giant. As Eichorst & Riley both said after the NIU debacle, we have everything we need to succeed right here, right now. A competent coach could come in and right this ship very quickly. I'm not sure if the writer is saying Frost isn't that coach, or if he's saying Nebraska isn't going to be easy to fix. If the former, maybe he's right, but that's about Frost, not Nebraska. If it's the latter, he's wrong, and all of college football will find that out when we get the right staff in here. Amen. I'll never stop believing that this giant will awaken one day. Quote Link to comment
LaunchCode Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If he's his own man he'll want to be a leader and not try to follow in predecessor's footsteps. Build a winner at UCF, win some conference championships, big bowl games, and he's their programs coaching legend and the measure all future coaches would be held up against. Or, come here and constantly be measured against coaches from a different era under different circumstances and play a much tougher schedule. Quote Link to comment
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