Jump to content
brophog

** Scott Frost megathread all things SF***

Recommended Posts

47 minutes ago, STL Husker said:

I strongly disagree.  I doubt many people even know where Rutgers is, and most couldn't tell you what conference they were in before the Big 10.

 

Out here in the Midwest perhaps. But back east is a very different story. Rutgers is a prestigious university, and is very respected. Athletically not as much but even then they have had their successes. 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No reason to stress out etc. Just relax enjoy the chaos that is not unfolding at NU and know that we have our guy already. We can all finally say "look at their dumpster fire, glad that is not happening in Lincoln"

  • Plus1 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, husker98 said:

 

Out here in the Midwest perhaps. But back east is a very different story. Rutgers is a prestigious university, and is very respected. Athletically not as much but even then they have had their successes. 

 

 

I live in NY and this is absolutely not the case. Rutgers is considered an OK school, but no one considers it prestigious. You have NYU and multiple IVY League schools right in it’s backyard. Not to mention other smaller schools that have good reps out here like Fordham and Manhattan College.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, caveman99 said:

I live in NY and this is absolutely not the case. Rutgers is considered an OK school, but no one considers it prestigious. You have NYU and multiple IVY League schools right in it’s backyard. Not to mention other smaller schools that have good reps out here like Fordham and Manhattan College.


For all the good recruits in the NJ area, no reason Rutgers should be so bad in athletics. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 My family back east would disagree with you.

 

However it is all a matter of perspective and what one values in the end I suppose. 

4 minutes ago, caveman99 said:

I live in NY and this is absolutely not the case. Rutgers is considered an OK school, but no one considers it prestigious. You have NYU and multiple IVY League schools right in it’s backyard. Not to mention other smaller schools that have good reps out here like Fordham and Manhattan College.

 

Back on subject UCF has no future in a power 5 conference. 

If things go the way many of the experts expect it will soon be a power 4 of 16 or so teams.

Cut will likely be left in the cold. I'm sure Scott has considered that possibility.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Dbqgolfer said:

Funny you say that, I was just thinking that their AD must be as incompetent as Eichorst. 

 

Currie was K-State's AD until earlier this year. Probably his biggest accomplishment there was chasing Frank Martin away.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess anything goes here in this random subject thread, but I cant read all the pages and comments to see if this question has been asked. 

 

No

 

Its not about Frost and our HC position. 

 

Regarding Tenn; has Les Miles name been brought up for it. Ties to SEC, maybe he would tell them to piss off, but just wondering? :dunno

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

No reason to stress out etc. Just relax enjoy the chaos that is not unfolding at NU and know that we have our guy already. We can all finally say "look at their dumpster fire, glad that is not happening in Lincoln"

I have you heard anything about Frost having any doubts like some of the Orlando reporters would like us to believe?

Edited by Packerhuskerfan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, TAKODA said:

I guess anything goes here in this random subject thread, but I cant read all the pages and comments to see if this question has been asked. 

 

No

 

Its not about Frost and our HC position. 

 

Regarding Tenn; has Les Miles name been brought up for it. Ties to SEC, maybe he would tell them to piss off, but just wondering? :dunno

This thread is more like the Coaching Carousel r/cfb with an extreme Husker flair now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, grandpasknee said:

The athletic department should get on top of that hire right away.  I'd sure get behind it.

Florida native and UCF grad, probably not coming with.   :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

No reason to stress out etc. Just relax enjoy the chaos that is not unfolding at NU and know that we have our guy already. We can all finally say "look at their dumpster fire, glad that is not happening in Lincoln"

 

Right. I mean look at all the rumors going out everywhere. We're not being linked to anyone else. There's no news, there's no drama, it's just quiet. This threads pace has even slowed down at times. It's just a wait and see thing right now. If we start hearing any rumors of anything else, that's when we want to start paying attention. 

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not a big fan of FootballScoop, but I thought this was interesting...

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-jimbo-texas-dominoes-fall/

 

"FootballScoop’s understanding is Oregon has such concern that a deal between Taggart and the Seminoles could happen that it has begun doing due diligence on its own candidates in preparation for a second search in as many years. Sources tell FootballScoop Oregon does not consider Scott Frost “available” should their position open. Make your own assumptions from there."

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, GA Husker said:

Frank the Tank has repeatedly stated that when it comes to expansion, you need to think like a school president, not a coach or fan.  UCF/USF bring nothing to the table academically, and little if any research acumen..  

 

Whoa...he also said Athletic Director and/or Conference Commissioner moreso than a school president. And you need to look at the priorities/needs of each conference, as well as the Big XII candidates, as well as any restrictions on moving (e.g. Grant of Rights/GORs)

 

Different conferences are going to have different priorities with expansion. For example:

  • Big XII: Getting large enough media markets to stay relevant and make a Big XII Network without Texass a reality. 
  • B1G: Adding prolific names to further embolden the B1G brand and get more TV sets in their massive footprint to tune in, expand recruiting footprint into SEC territory. 
  • SEC: Expanding recruiting footprint
  • Pac-12: Getting Mountain and/or Central Time Zone games to remain relevant and potentially restructure their TV deal
  • ACC: Getting more schools to expand TV and recruiting footprint

Couple that with the schools' priorities and ambitions:

  • Oklahoma: Improve the school's academic cache, get into a viable, stable conference with a television deal and/or channel in place, improve Olympic/non-revenue sports
  • Kansas: Get into a viable, stable conference with a television deal and/or channel in place. 
  • Texass: Find a viable, stable conference that will allow them to keep Bevo TV and run the show politically. 

Texass doesn't have to move for money--Oklahoma and Kansas do (though neither are hurting). Texass also wants to keep their channel, and unless ESPN pulls the plug on it (the channel gets dismal ratings, yet it's a fiscal millstone around ESPN's neck because Texass must be paid the whole of the contract if the channel is cancelled), this channel will likely keep Texass from moving anywhere. 

 

And frankly, if Texass stays in the Big XII, they'll expand to remain relevant and have a shot at the Playoffs. That would likely mean schools like UConn, UCF, and/or Colorado State get to step up to the P5 world.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, husker98 said:

 My family back east would disagree with you.

 

However it is all a matter of perspective and what one values in the end I suppose. 

 

Back on subject UCF has no future in a power 5 conference. 

If things go the way many of the experts expect it will soon be a power 4 of 16 or so teams.

Cut will likely be left in the cold. I'm sure Scott has considered that possibility.

 

I don’t think it’s really debatable. Rutgers isn’t a bad school, but it doesn’t carry cache the way prestigious schools do. If a kid has really good grades and has a lot of options, he/she won’t have Rutgers near the top 5. You have Colombia, Princeton, Yale all within easy distance and Penn and Brown are also not too far. Cornell is a few hours upstate, but definitely a top choice in this area. Schools like Fordham and NYU come to mind well before Rutgers does. Heck many kids would look at Boston first with MIT, Harvard, Tufts, etc. first.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know whats funny it was said that we had to wait such and such days 2 months ago.  Frankly im tired of waiting.  Nothing i can do about it but yea  over it.

Hi-Five-from-Cute-Puppy-GIF.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Dbqgolfer said:

Funny you say that, I was just thinking that their AD must be as incompetent as Eichorst. 

 

Eichorst thought he was brilliant to select a guy that nobody else would ever want.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Eichorst thought he was brilliant to select a guy that nobody else would ever want.

 

Except that it was brilliant, as Eichorst was a mole/double agent sent to sabotage our program. 

 

At least, that's the narrative I tell myself so I don't have to live with the reality that DoNU actually made a mistake and hired him in the first place--it's easier to believe he was a master saboteur. 

Edited by VectorVictor
  • Plus1 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, TAKODA said:

I guess anything goes here in this random subject thread, but I cant read all the pages and comments to see if this question has been asked. 

 

No

 

Its not about Frost and our HC position. 

 

Regarding Tenn; has Les Miles name been brought up for it. Ties to SEC, maybe he would tell them to piss off, but just wondering? :dunno

 

I'm surprised they haven't gone this route with Les Miles.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, MacNCheeze said:

You know whats funny it was said that we had to wait such and such days 2 months ago.  Frankly im tired of waiting.  Nothing i can do about it but yea  over it.

Hi-Five-from-Cute-Puppy-GIF.gif

???  Moos said he wasn't firing Riley until the end of the year.  Then Nebraska and Frost basically confirmed it after our season was over.  Frost has one more game.  This is exactly the time line everyone expected except you apparently.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

1 minute ago, caveman99 said:

I don’t think it’s really debatable. Rutgers isn’t a bad school, but it doesn’t carry cache the way prestigious schools do. If a kid has really good grades and has a lot of options, he/she won’t have Rutgers near the top 5. You have Colombia, Princeton, Yale all within easy distance and Penn and Brown are also not too far. Cornell is a few hours upstate, but definitely a top choice in this area. Schools like Fordham and NYU come to mind well before Rutgers does. Heck many kids would look at Boston first with MIT, Harvard, Tufts, etc. first.

 

Every school is a step down when compared to an elite Ivey league school. 

 

A school can be prestigious and not be a member of that esteemed group. Many are. 

Rutgers falls into that group as I understand it. But I digress it's what I have heard secondhand. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Dbqgolfer said:

Florida native and UCF grad, probably not coming with.   :(

And I'm pretty sure that is just fine with SF's better half.

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Dilly Dilly said:

 

I'm surprised they haven't gone this route with Les Miles.

 

If they have not reviewed this option, I would be surprised too, but I am not up to speed on the happenings at Tenn. This is why I posed the Q. Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, schriznoeder said:

I'm not a big fan of FootballScoop, but I thought this was interesting...

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-jimbo-texas-dominoes-fall/

 

"FootballScoop’s understanding is Oregon has such concern that a deal between Taggart and the Seminoles could happen that it has begun doing due diligence on its own candidates in preparation for a second search in as many years. Sources tell FootballScoop Oregon does not consider Scott Frost “available” should their position open. Make your own assumptions from there."

Just another piece of supporting evidence 

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, cheekygeek said:

And I'm pretty sure that is just fine with SF's better half.

I know my better half would have vetoed that hire immediately!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
48 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

I think you are all overlooking the real MVP of UCF that needs to be hired at UNL 

http://www.ucfknights.com/coaches.aspx?rc=930&path=football

I have fallen for this rick-roll at least 4 times in this mega thread... and I don't mind one bit. 

Edited by Vizsla1
  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

jeez Jay Foreman showing his distain for frost on S and B today at the tail end of the segment.  It's definitely a jealousy thing with some of these former players.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, RedNebraskan said:

jeez Jay Foreman showing his distain for frost on S and B today at the tail end of the segment.  It's definitely a jealousy thing with some of these former players.

What’d he say so I don’t have to listen to these clowns?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, ladyhawke said:

Why?  I know all about the recruiting aspect and getting here etc. but this is such an unusual circumstance. Winning every game in your division, then if they do win  their CCG knowing you won't be allowed to coach these boys that you've spent the last two years developing for an opportunity to have a perfect season? I don't know. (And I'm asking sincerely 'why') I think that would be agonizing for Scott.  But he is an adult and there are always consequences to any decision that we make in life.  But I would like to know why this would be impossible.

Assuming you got this answered, but I'll throw in my thoughts. 

 

1. Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

2. Current roster. These kids will be done with classes by the 16th and transfer considerations will get very serious. 

3. Assistant coaches. Need to hire, get on same page, etc. 

4. Recruiting again. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, MacNCheeze said:

 

Ugh.  To anyone who follows the link, be sure to check out the 4 comments... first one being:

 

Quote
 
Deborah Elsasser 
Yep. I watched him at the presser introducing Coach Riley. First time I ever heard him speak. I was impressed and am also impressed with how he handled the search, from start to finish. I was becoming concerned with "wtf? and who is this guy?" thoughts about our AD because he is such an "in the shadows" operator. I was wrong. While unobtrusive, he is thoughtful, smart and swift when the time comes to act. Well done Shawn

 

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Vizsla1 said:

I have fallen for this rick-roll at least 4 times in this mega thread... and I don't mind one bit. 

I don't blame you one bit, with a gorgeous resume like that.... my oh my

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Ziebol the Red said:

What’d he say so I don’t have to listen to these clowns?

"When some things come to light, and you realize it ain't fair, but you know, there's some things we're going to have to swallow here that are coming pretty soon. I gotta use this weekend to get my mind right to prepare for it.  ..... Hopefully by next Wednesday I'll be at peace with it".

 

Jay Foreman on Scott Frost being N.

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

"When some things come to light, and you realize it ain't fair, but you know, there's some things we're going to have to swallow here that are coming pretty soon. I gotta use this weekend to get my mind right to prepare for it.  ..... Hopefully by next Wednesday I'll be at peace with it".

 

Jay Foreman on Scott Frost being N.

If you haven't swallowed immature college s#!t after 20 years I am speechless 

  • Plus1 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

"When some things come to light, and you realize it ain't fair, but you know, there's some things we're going to have to swallow here that are coming pretty soon. I gotta use this weekend to get my mind right to prepare for it.  ..... Hopefully by next Wednesday I'll be at peace with it".

 

Jay Foreman on Scott Frost being N.

I’m missing what he’s saying because he speaks like a 5 year old, but I really hope Damon and Jay stay away from the program when Frost is here. They both continually drag the man and it’s fairly obvious it’s jealousy over his success.

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

"When some things come to light, and you realize it ain't fair, but you know, there's some things we're going to have to swallow here that are coming pretty soon. I gotta use this weekend to get my mind right to prepare for it.  ..... Hopefully by next Wednesday I'll be at peace with it".

 

Jay Foreman on Scott Frost being N.

 

Being a little dramatic, aren't we Jay?  Whatever happened between SF and other former players was 20 freaking years ago.  Whatever it was that has DB and Jay acting this way, is 20 years in the PAST between COLLEGE KIDS.  What was so egregious?  Why can't we just get it out into the open and be done with this crap.

  • Plus1 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

"When some things come to light, and you realize it ain't fair, but you know, there's some things we're going to have to swallow here that are coming pretty soon. I gotta use this weekend to get my mind right to prepare for it.  ..... Hopefully by next Wednesday I'll be at peace with it".

 

Jay Foreman on Scott Frost being N.

I'm so sick of these guys being soooo bitter about things that went down 20 years ago. Did Scott bone his wife? Sleep with his daughter?Kill a family member? NO! It's crap that happens all the time in college. Get over it. Grow up. You are all adults now with your own lives. Such a bunch of crybabies.

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, C N Red said:

I'm so sick of these guys being soooo bitter about things that went down 20 years ago. Did Scott bone his wife? Sleep with his daughter?Kill a family member? NO! It's crap that happens all the time in college. Get over it. Grow up. You are all adults now with your own lives. Such a bunch of crybabies.

What did happen?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The thing that bothers me is they're former players with influence who also happen to be very opinionated about the program.

 

You want to talk about division and a fractured fan base, what do you think this kind of talk does, Jay and DB? Some opinions are best left alone, particularly if it involves circumstantial 'he said she said' drama from decades ago.

  • Plus1 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, man eating mastodon said:

What did happen?

It might string back to the LP, Scott and the girlfriend incident, but I'm unsure.

  • Plus1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×