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On 9/20/2024 at 12:09 PM, Moiraine said:

 

 

I don't think that's possible for anyone who was younger than 10 when it happened. You can't know what life was like before we got attacked. I mean, we have no idea what Pearl Harbor was really like, and I feel that was or should have been less shocking because there was a world war going on at the time and the majority were military personnel. Also, it wasn't televised on live TV.

 

 

Craziest thing about Pearl Harbor that I didn't learn until I was an adult was that Hawaii was still well over a decade away from even becoming a state.

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On 9/26/2024 at 12:22 PM, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Craziest thing about Pearl Harbor that I didn't learn until I was an adult was that Hawaii was still well over a decade away from even becoming a state.

 

The U.S. has had military bases emplaced in several territories (including Hawaii at that time) for almost 200 years.  I'm having trouble understanding how the Pearl Harbor base would seem like a "crazy thing" to anyone, Hawaii being a territory of the U.S. since 1898. 

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3 hours ago, Hagg said:

 

The U.S. has had military bases emplaced in several territories (including Hawaii at that time) for almost 200 years.  I'm having trouble understanding how the Pearl Harbor base would seem like a "crazy thing" to anyone, Hawaii being a territory of the U.S. since 1898. 

I think he's saying, he didn't realize Hawaii was a territory, and not a state, when Pearl Harbor was bombed.  Quite frankly, if I was ever told that, I had forgotten.


Interesting.

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21 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

I think he's saying, he didn't realize Hawaii was a territory, and not a state, when Pearl Harbor was bombed.  Quite frankly, if I was ever told that, I had forgotten.


Interesting.

 

Oh, I see.  I took his remark as along the lines of being surprised that we'd have a military presence in a U.S. territorial region at all.  It seemed strange.  But, as you point out here, it looks like he just was unaware that Hawaii was not a state at the time of the attack.  👍

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1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

This is kinda why the “threat to Democracy” language is so commonly used.   
 

 

 

 

 

While this certainly is or can be a savvy part of any political playbook for gaining/maintaning power (see, "communist/socialist claims against any Dem candidate"), I reckon the language is also used in part due to the reality that Trump and his team engaged in an ambitious and highly orchestrated attempt to subvert our democracy, which feels like a pretty good case study on the definition of the word 'threat'.

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2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Just ignore the fact that he and his team actually have done what democrats are warning about. 
 

Carry on with the party talking points. 

You should understand that Sunny is not a Trumper.  And being right has no bearing on what anyone else is saying.   Just cause you throw out your favorite “party politics” line doesn’t actually make it accurate.  

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