LB Javontae Jean-Baptiste [Ohio State - Signed LOI]

[Jason Sitoke]

1 hour ago, Warrior10 said:

You don't understand the 247 crystal ball rankings.

Agreed.

[Mavric]

2 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

The example of him being wrong isn't the point.  The point is that this whole racket is skewed and misleading.

 

If JBB ends up at OSU, I'm bettin that Wiltfong chalks that up as a 'correct' prediction.

 

By my count, he has had 3 or 4 CB predictions for JBB throughout the process....and some of them are wrong.

 

That is your perception of it.  Which is fine.  But that doesn't mean it's the only way to look at it.

 

He - and a bunch of others - make a prediction before an announcement is made and then see if that prediction is correct or not.  The rules could be changed to say they couldn't change a prediction but that's not how the rules are set up now.  They don't always know when a kid is going to announce.  Kids change their minds.  It really doesn't make much sense to prevent them from changing their picks.  You can look at it as gaming the system.  To me, it shows that they are actually really in tune with what the kids are thinking at a particular time but the kids thinking - and thus their pick - may change.

 

Their predictions - though sometimes changing - end up being correct the vast majority of the time.  

[StPaulHusker]

At the end of the day does it really matter if Wiltfong is right or wrong?  Does it matter if any of them are right or wrong?

 

What should matter is if the coaches are right or wrong in who they are recruiting.

[Redux]

So, what actually is the current status?  Last I had heard, he was most likely N.  This was yesterday.

[Jason Sitoke]

4 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

That is your perception of it.  Which is fine.  But that doesn't mean it's the only way to look at it.

 

He - and a bunch of others - make a prediction before an announcement is made and then see if that prediction is correct or not.  The rules could be changed to say they couldn't change a prediction but that's not how the rules are set up now.  They don't always know when a kid is going to announce.  Kids change their minds.  It really doesn't make much sense to prevent them from changing their picks.  You can look at it as gaming the system.  To me, it shows that they are actually really in tune with what the kids are thinking at a particular time but the kids thinking - and thus their pick - may change.

 

Their predictions - though sometimes changing - end up being correct the vast majority of the time.  

Fair enough.  As someone who really just follows this board, and nothing else, I am not as educated as y'all on following recruiting.

It just seems funny to me that people are relaying these CB picks, and they mean just slightly more than absolutely nothing.  

 

I think what has been misleading is the 'he makes picks 5 months in advance'.  Technically true...but not the whole story.

Edited February 6, 2018 by Jason Sitoke

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Just now, StPaulHusker said:

At the end of the day does it really matter if Wiltfong is right or wrong?  Does it matter if any of them are right or wrong?

 

What should matter is if the coaches are right or wrong in who they are recruiting.

Sir, please remove this well thought out and rational thinking, and come back with irrational posts and knee jerk reactions.  You must be new to HB.

[Mavric]

Just now, Jason Sitoke said:

Fair enough.  As someone who really just follows this board, and nothing else, I am not as educated as y'all on following recruiting.

It just seems funny to me that people are relaying these CB picks, and they mean just slightly more than absolutely nothing.  

 

I think what has been misleading is the 'he makes picks 5 months in advance'.  Technically true...but not the whole story.

 

Again, this is your perception.  There are stats that show this to not really be true but you don't want to believe them so you dismiss them.  

[Jason Sitoke]

Just now, Mavric said:

 

Again, this is your perception.  There are stats that show this to not really be true but you don't want to believe them so you dismiss them.  

I dismiss them as readily as people dismiss Wiltfong's first 3 predictions, I guess.

[Mavric]

Just now, Jason Sitoke said:

I dismiss them as readily as people dismiss Wiltfong's first 3 predictions, I guess.

 

Most people recognize that 17 year old kids can change their minds.

[teachercd]

I mean...if you are predicting something...and then you get information that changes things...of course you are going to change your prediction.

 

If a guy predicts that John Watson is going to Clemson and Dabo Sweeney dies in a space shuttle mishap...and that makes John Watson not want to attend Clemson...why wouldn't the prediction change?

[Jason Sitoke]

Just now, Mavric said:

 

Most people recognize that 17 year old kids can change their minds.

And yet some people make predictions about what these 17 year old minds are thinking, and make careers out of it.

 

But I'm here.  I'm hooked.  Next 24 hours...

[Warrior10]

26 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

At the end of the day does it really matter if Wiltfong is right or wrong?  Does it matter if any of them are right or wrong?

 

What should matter is if the coaches are right or wrong in who they are recruiting.

But that isn't as fun. 

[BIG ERN]

The #1 OT seems to be in good position to commit to Ohio State....

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

I mean...if you are predicting something...and then you get information that changes things...of course you are going to change your prediction.

 

If a guy predicts that John Watson is going to Clemson and Dabo Sweeney dies in a space shuttle mishap...and that makes John Watson not want to attend Clemson...why wouldn't the prediction change?

This sounds made up 

[HS_Coach_C]

10 minutes ago, RedRedJarvisRedwine said:

This sounds made up