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Extremely impressed with the new staff on the recruiting trail


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I am not going to blame a kid who was committed to the former staff to look elsewhere and I am not going to blame the new coaching staff for not being able to keep the Riley commits in this year's class.  That's the way it goes with recruiting.  I would love to have kids commit to the school, rather than their position/head coach, but that's a realistic point of view anymore.

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4 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

There aren't any problems with my post, seeing as I wasn't claiming it was a direct comparison to Michigan. I didn't even talk about Harbaugh. I just gave his class rankings in response to someone else's post.

 

I said (didn't imply) we lost recruits due to a crappy season. Your reply doesn't refute that. There were rumors of Riley's firing because of the crappy season.

If you've ever topped a ball badly in front of a lot of people on the tee, you know how I feel right now.  I misread sorry.

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22 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

If we only got kids committed to the school and not to the coaches they built a relationship, we would have almost zero non Nebraskan players.

That's not 100% true.  Yes, the initial relationship with the assistant coach recruiting the player is important, but I hear a lot of time from players in the 80s and 90s that they were committed to playing for Nebraska, not necessarily that assistant coach.  The relationships with the assistants are a bonus.

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10 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

That's not 100% true.  Yes, the initial relationship with the assistant coach recruiting the player is important, but I hear a lot of time from players in the 80s and 90s that they were committed to playing for Nebraska, not necessarily that assistant coach.  The relationships with the assistants are a bonus.

 

 

That might be what they're saying but there tend to be quite a few decommits from schools when they lose a coach.

25 minutes ago, LaunchCode said:

If you've ever topped a ball badly in front of a lot of people on the tee, you know how I feel right now.  I misread sorry.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

That's not 100% true.  Yes, the initial relationship with the assistant coach recruiting the player is important, but I hear a lot of time from players in the 80s and 90s that they were committed to playing for Nebraska, not necessarily that assistant coach.  The relationships with the assistants are a bonus.

 

Thats easy for them to say when they came to a dominant program and very seldom had a coaching change even with the assistants. 

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Looking back at UCF recruiting numbers, they always did pretty well before Frost, but Frost definitely took their recruiting to another level. He had the #1 class in the AAC for 2017 and was closing in on another. The AAC isn't the BIG but there is strong competition in recruiting in that league no doubt.

 

I think he will do well here eventually, and he will do well to salvage whats left of this class. If we can end up #1 in the West that will be a victory. I wouldn't call it extremely impressive, but definitely a victory.

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33 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Looking back at UCF recruiting numbers, they always did pretty well before Frost, but Frost definitely took their recruiting to another level. He had the #1 class in the AAC for 2017 and was closing in on another. The AAC isn't the BIG but there is strong competition in recruiting in that league no doubt.

 

I think he will do well here eventually, and he will do well to salvage whats left of this class. If we can end up #1 in the West that will be a victory. I wouldn't call it extremely impressive, but definitely a victory.

Nebraska has pretty much always been the top recruiter in the West since joining the B1G. The issue in winning the West has been more about development and coaching. I think SF and Co need to take a step forward over current recruiting results to put them in position to win conference and/or national titles, but the talent to win the West was already being brought in.

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37 minutes ago, caveman99 said:

Nebraska has pretty much always been the top recruiter in the West since joining the B1G. The issue in winning the West has been more about development and coaching. I think SF and Co need to take a step forward over current recruiting results to put them in position to win conference and/or national titles, but the talent to win the West was already being brought in.

I agree but I was just talking about the '18 class. We aren't going to take a step forward this cycle with this much time left. The idea is to not take a step backwards.

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3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

I agree but I was just talking about the '18 class. We aren't going to take a step forward this cycle with this much time left. The idea is to not take a step backwards.

But, the new coaching staff isn't to blame if it is a step backwards.  Starting to recruit for a class in December is pretty difficult, especially with the new December signing date.

 

We knew one of the fallouts with the coaching change would be a diminished 2018 class, but we need to focus on the long-term viability of the program, rather than one small recruiting class during a coaching transition.

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Just now, ColoradoHusk said:

But, the new coaching staff isn't to blame if it is a step backwards.  Starting to recruit for a class in December is pretty difficult, especially with the new December signing date.

 

We knew one of the fallouts with the coaching change would be a diminished 2018 class, but we need to focus on the long-term viability of the program, rather than one small recruiting class during a coaching transition.

Ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. Frost would be a little to blame if we don't finish with the #1 class in the west. Our star rating is higher than the rest of the west and we have more 4 stars than any other team, we just lack the number of commits. I expect Frost to finish around 30 or so and atop our division. If he can't do that it is still mostly on Riley but that is also a failure for Frost.

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3 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. Frost would be a little to blame if we don't finish with the #1 class in the west. Our star rating is higher than the rest of the west and we have more 4 stars than any other team, we just lack the number of commits. I expect Frost to finish around 30 or so and atop our division. If he can't do that it is still mostly on Riley but that is also a failure for Frost.

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