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Birds of a feather - Trump and Falwell.   The guy is a jerk, riding on his daddy's coattails.  So this "Evangelical Leader" can call a reporter 'little boy" and hire 'the meanest lawyer in NY" - sure doesn't sound like he is displaying any Christian charity or the fruit of the Spirit.  No wonder - when you sleep wt the bear you have to become one with the bear so not to be eaten by it. Falwell is like Trump and Trump is like him.   So sad that he 'inherited' his leadership position and a platform to speak on moral issues and never earned by learning to 'dying to self' and picking up his cross in humility.  The way of the cross is much more difficult then the way of power, money and image.  That is why he resembles Trump and not Mother Teresa or any other who have given their life to helping others.

 

https://apnews.com/01404d7b984b4010b08834459e4813f1

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Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. said Tuesday that he is asking the FBI to investigate what he called a “criminal” smear campaign orchestrated against him by several disgruntled former board members and employees.

 

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His allegations come after the publication of a story in Politico Magazine on Monday that alleged Falwell “presides over a culture of self-dealing” at Liberty that has improperly benefited him and his family. The story cited unnamed sources described as current and former officials or Falwell associates.

“I’m not going to dignify the lies that were reported yesterday with a response, but I am going to the authorities and I am going to civil court,” Falwell said, referring to the reporter as a “little boy.”

He added that Liberty has hired “the meanest lawyer in New York,” whom he declined to identify, to pursue civil cases. Falwell also declined to identify the people he said were spreading the emails.

 

 

 

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Falwell is the son of the late evangelist, Liberty founder and Moral Majority leader the Rev. Jerry Falwell. He has come under increased scrutiny recently over his personal life and business investments, including his involvement in a Miami hostel.

The Hill first reported on Tuesday that Falwell had requested an FBI investigation.

Falwell said he contacted the FBI last week after he learned that reporters were reaching out to Liberty employees about the emails he insists were stolen.

“Liberty owns every single one of those emails. It’s our property. They were working for us when they used our server. And our policies make it clear every email sent on our server is owned by Liberty and if anybody shares it with anybody outside Liberty, it is theft. And so that’s the underlying crime,” Falwell told AP in a phone interview.

An FBI spokeswoman declined comment.

Cybercrime expert Nick Akerman said Falwell’s assertion of a criminal conspiracy is “totally insane.” Akerman said the ex-board members and employees can share emails with reporters as long as they had authorized access to them and didn’t hack into someone else’s account. He said trade secrets are also protected under the law, but Liberty wouldn’t be able to make a case there either.

 

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/10/jerry-falwell-nightclub-photos-miami-228054

https://worldredeye.com/2019/09/rebuke-jerry-falwell-jr-s-comment-politicos-someones-gotta-tell-freakin-truth-jerry-falwells-aides-break-silence-article/

This really gets weird

and more - compromising photos

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jerry-falwell-jr-miami-beach-pool-boy-evangelical-explained-850380/

 

And weirder -- he is more like Trump than I can imaginge

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2019/09/jerry-falwell-jr-sends-racy-photos-of-his-wife-to-university-officials-and-rants-about-his-penis-size-report/

 

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article231717833.html

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The sun was setting at the Cheeca Lodge resort in Islamorada when Jerry Falwell Jr. smiled for the camera, a national evangelical leader nearing 50 posing next to a young man he had met poolside in Miami Beach.

The photograph shows Giancarlo Granda, a handsome, 20-something pool attendant whom Jerry and his wife, Rebecca, 52, befriended at the Fontainebleau hotel in 2012, and within months, would set up as part-owner and manager of a $4.7 million South Beach hostel.

It was an unusual partnership: The president of the largest Christian university in the world, a school that prohibits gay sex, agreeing to operate a Miami Beach hostel, regarded as gay friendly, in conjunction with a “pool boy” with virtually no hotel management experience after they met at the storied Fontainebleau, a favored South Florida vacation ground for the Falwells. Yet there they were, not only business partners but mingling socially at Cheeca, an idyllic, exclusive resort in the Keys.

 


 
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14 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

So it turns out Spicey is banking on God being a big player on Dancing With The Stars votes ...

 

 

 

This is the kind of thought process that absolutely makes no sense to me.  So.....Spicey is a bad dancer, the judges aren't impressed......and its because he's a Christian and Huckabee is going to pray for him and so all the Christians will then vote for him and send a message to those evil people on the west coast?

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31 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

This is the kind of thought process that absolutely makes no sense to me.  So.....Spicey is a bad dancer, the judges aren't impressed......and its because he's a Christian and Huckabee is going to pray for him and so all the Christians will then vote for him and send a message to those evil people on the west coast?

Not many people are aware that Jesus actually "moonwalked" on the water.  He was an avid dancer!  I'm sure Christ is watching DWTS and chomping at the bit to sway the outcome....

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On 10/3/2019 at 7:13 AM, BigRedBuster said:

Yes

 

 

This is what grace, mercy, love & reconciliation looks like.  He is living out the words of Christ.   An amazing testimony.  And the judge also does the same thing and leads her in prayer after giving her Bible to Amber and reading John 3:16.  This was a Spirit led grace moment for sure.

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4 hours ago, TGHusker said:

This is what grace, mercy, love & reconciliation looks like.  He is living out the words of Christ.   An amazing testimony.  And the judge also does the same thing and leads her in prayer after giving her Bible to Amber and reading John 3:16.  This was a Spirit led grace moment for sure.

 

Grace, mercy, love and reconciliation are not dependent on Christ nor a Christian attitude and can exist and be exhibited independent of Christianity.

 

It's cool that the judge thought he was doing the right thing according to his indoctrination and religiosity...but imagine if she was an atheist or a Buddhist or a Muslim...would have been short sighted and maybe even slightly offensive to her.  Anyways, I always cringe when Judges try to bring religion into the courtroom...no matter how or where.  I don't fault the brother at all...he was doing according to his own belief system.

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I thought that I got taken to the woodshed for insisting that politics were present in churches?  Now the tweet above says exactly that?  :sarcasm

 

I guess that's interesting.

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On 10/3/2019 at 7:13 AM, BigRedBuster said:

Yes

 

 

My pastor just did a sermon on this story on Sunday. It was a great sermon. He's very conservative by nature and tries not to get too much into politics, but this story was a perfect example of Luke 7:36-50 "A Sinful Woman Forgiven". In this moment, she isn't worthy of forgiveness, but that is why forgiveness is the perfect gift.

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I'm already beyond exhausted with the "reconciliation porn" of this story. 

 

Bonhoefer called forgiveness without repentance cheap grace, and when white people keep praising black forgiveness but still refuse to validate black anger or to be outraged by unjust and non-equitable punishments, that just feels like relatively empty tone policing to me. 

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1 hour ago, Landlord said:

I'm already beyond exhausted with the "reconciliation porn" of this story. 

 

Bonhoefer called forgiveness without repentance cheap grace, and when white people keep praising black forgiveness but still refuse to validate black anger or to be outraged by unjust and non-equitable punishments, that just feels like relatively empty tone policing to me. 

and your comments are directed at...:dunno   I think you protest a bit too much on this. 

 

Bonhoefer is talking about cheap grace if I presume forgiveness but never repent.  However, on the personal level - person to person, forgiveness as an act can have 2 results  1. It frees the forgiver of the bitterness of heart that can come from an offense.  Bitterness is the 'is the poison we wish on someone else but drinking it ourself'.   2. Can be the spark in the soul for the forgiven to repent.  In this case, Amber has to decide what to do with it - repent or keep her heart hard.  

 

Forgiveness does not dismiss or minimize injustice or non-equitable punishments.  I look at this story and see Christian people, in spite of the injustice, doing the Christ like thing - forgiving.  I don't see a AA man forgiving a white woman.  I see a man forgiving someone who sinned against him and his family .... deeply.  Which only magnifies the grace given.  The injustice and non-equitable punishment issues aren't to be minimized or over looked but those are separate actions - separate discussions. 

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On 10/5/2019 at 10:57 AM, BlitzFirst said:

I thought that I got taken to the woodshed for insisting that politics were present in churches?  Now the tweet above says exactly that?  :sarcasm

 

I guess that's interesting.

 

 

The tweet doesn’t at all validate what you were posting. There isn’t any data involved whatsoever unless I’m missing a link. It’s just Trump puking out something with no evidence followed by someone replying to his puke with no evidence. 

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7 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

The tweet doesn’t at all validate what you were posting. There isn’t any data involved whatsoever unless I’m missing a link. It’s just Trump puking out something with no evidence followed by someone replying to his puke with no evidence. 

 

I didn't say it validated anything...but it made the same claim I did previously.  I looked through the comments of the tweet and no one ripped the author telling him how wrong he was.

 

Just found it interesting.  I guess on the internet, you're wrong depending on who the information is consumed by.

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