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11 hours ago, Big Red 40 said:

lol yeah i think most of us would be locked up according to that sheesh  :ahhhhhhhh

Hahaha!!!

I just saw (and in this exact order):

  • Tobacco & Masturbation
  • Political Excitement
  • Politics
  • Religious Enthusiasm
  • Fever and Loss of Law Suit
  • Asthma
  • Bad Company

Few more:

  • Bad Whiskey
  • Business Nerves
  • Decoyed into the Army
  • Deranged Masturbation

 

This has to be parody.

 

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3 hours ago, RedDenver said:

Hahaha!!!

I just saw (and in this exact order):

  • Tobacco & Masturbation
  • Political Excitement
  • Politics
  • Religious Enthusiasm
  • Fever and Loss of Law Suit
  • Asthma
  • Bad Company

Few more:

  • Bad Whiskey
  • Business Nerves
  • Decoyed into the Army
  • Deranged Masturbation

 

This has to be parody.

 

 

 

Guess I'm going to the asylum

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Interesting article.

 

 

This skews the data when looking simply at what Americans pay compared to other countries.  Who is paying for the research?

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How drugs are paid for varies among the countries studied. A recent White House report recommended finding a way to get foreign nations to "price drugs at levels that appropriately reward innovation, rather than disproportionately putting that that burden on American patients and taxpayers."

 

 

You have doctors coming out of med school with $400,000 - $500,000 debt.  You better expect to pay them a lot.  The cost of the education is outlandish.

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The U.S. had high levels of administrative burden, the researchers found. In the country, 8 percent of GDP was spent on administration and governance compared with the average of 3 percent of GDP. 

Labor costs also contributed to the spending disparity. Salaries for generalists, specialists and nurses were all higher in the U.S. than in the other countries.

 

 

Totally unacceptable.  However, I blame our society on this more than the healthcare system.  The healthcare system can only do so much.  People have to take more responsibility for their health with good life choices.

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And while the U.S. spent the most on health care, it performed the worst on some measures. Life expectancy of 78.8 years was lower than the average of 81.7 years among the countries studied. Infant mortality was the highest, at 5.8 deaths per 1,000 live births in the U.S., compared with the average of 3.6 per 1,000.

 

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On your last point - that's why I'm all for a soda tax with all revenue going towards healthcare, and thought NY's idea to ban large sodas was a good idea. It's also another reason maybe there shouldn't be corn subsidies. The government is subsidizing corn syrup.

 

People being unhealthy usually costs other people $ too.

 

Just found out right now that Seattle implemented a 1.75 cents/oz soda tax in January.

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Just now, BigRedBuster said:

Yes I can.  I believe you would find that many of those infant deaths are because of poor decisions made by the mother/parents during pregnancy.

 

Just now, Moiraine said:

The health of the mother is a huge factor.

 

But I'm not saying healthcare isn't another huge factor.

Does anyone have data to backup these claims either way? In the absence of evidence, I think the healthcare system is more indicative of infant mortality than societal choices.

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13 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

 

Does anyone have data to backup these claims either way? In the absence of evidence, I think the healthcare system is more indicative of infant mortality than societal choices.

 

 

I'm not saying 1 is more important than the other. But it's pretty common knowledge that the health of the mother is extremely important.

 

But here's one example:

 

http://chgd.umich.edu/obesity-among-mothers-doubles-infant-mortality-rates/

 

 

The mother's health and our healthcare system are interrelated though, obviously. A woman who is poor and doesn't have insurance, or good insurance, may not be able to take prenatal vitamins, or do whatever else a pregnant lady needs to do. I've never been a pregnant lady so I don't know what all those things are.

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To go along with Moiraine's link.

 

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The study, published Tuesday in the journal JAMA, reveals that for the years 2013-2014, the obesity prevalence was 35% for men and 40% for women. When looking at trends over time, the researchers found that from the year 2005 to 2014 there were significant and steady increases in the number of American women who were very obese.

 

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24 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I'm not saying 1 is more important than the other. But it's pretty common knowledge that the health of the mother is extremely important.

 

But here's one example:

 

http://chgd.umich.edu/obesity-among-mothers-doubles-infant-mortality-rates/

 

 

The mother's health and our healthcare system are interrelated though, obviously. A woman who is poor and doesn't have insurance, or good insurance, may not be able to take prenatal vitamins, or do whatever else a pregnant lady needs to do. I've never been a pregnant lady so I don't know what all those things are.

 

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

To go along with Moiraine's link.

 

LINK

 

 

Interesting, I'll have to read those more carefully later.

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