husker98 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hmm. It's like Baylor all over again. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, husker98 said: Hmm. It's like Baylor all over again. Yup. And it makes you wonder how many other places this is going on. And how many other coaches/ADs are worried that their kingdoms could all come crashing down. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) There is a UNL connection to both the Baylor and MSU stories. Paula Lavigne, the ESPN reporter breaking these stories, is a UNL grad. Edited January 26, 2018 by Red Five 1 Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, husker98 said: Hmm. It's like Baylor all over again. The thing is this might be proven to be across multiple sports from Gymnastics, to rowing and even basketball and football swept things under the rug or flat out ignored allegations. AD had no choice but to leave(or he would be canned because this all falls on him) but the trickle down effect to Football and Basketball will be interesting. In Baylor and PSU cases everything was football focused, but this is multiple teams within the MSU athletic program which is really concerning as an organization they let it slide across the board. Truly sad stuff. Edited January 26, 2018 by Minnesota_husker Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) I don't really care what arguments I hear - the fact is when you have an accusation of assault give to a coach, or a trainer, or anyone else involved at the university, you effing record it somewhere and then look at it again in case there's ever another one. Even if their excuse is they didn't know about the previous accusations, it isn't a real excuse because they failed to keep a record of it. All of these accusations should have been known about, and by the time you get the 2nd or 3rd, you investigate. They didn't investigate until 2014 when the first was in the late 90's. Maybe if they'd kept track (that's assuming they didn't sweep it under the rug) they could've stopped it 10 years ago and prevented dozens of girls from being sexually assaulted. And on top of that, when you get an accusation like this and you know the guy works with another huge organization, you effing talk to them. Edited January 26, 2018 by Moiraine 1 Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Moiraine said: I don't really care what arguments I hear - the fact is when you have an accusation of assault give to a coach, or a trainer, or anyone else involved at the university, you effing record it somewhere and then look at it again in case there's ever another one. Even if their excuse is they didn't know about the previous accusations, it isn't a real excuse because they failed to keep a record of it. All of these accusations should have been known about, and by the time you get the 2nd or 3rd, you investigate. They didn't investigate until 2014 when the first was in the late 90's. Maybe if they'd kept track (that's assuming they didn't sweep it under the rug) they could've stopped it 10 years ago and prevented dozens of girls from being sexually assaulted. And on top of that, when you get an accusation like this and you know the guy works with another huge organization, you effing talk to them. Exactly. This is highly concerning and no excuses fly. I think the football and basketball programs had issues unrelated to Nasser but just proves that some institutions like MSU dont care at all and let things slide across all sports/organizations. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) I should've added there... you investigate the 1st one, which their gymnastics coach did not. But when you have 2 or 3 it should be much more obvious there is something wrong. Edited January 26, 2018 by Moiraine Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Minnesota_husker said: Exactly. This is highly concerning and no excuses fly. I think the football and basketball programs had issues unrelated to Nasser but just proves that some institutions like MSU dont care at all and let things slide across all sports/organizations. It's much more than that. There were multiple reports of rape and sexual assault against several football and basketball players that got swept under the rug. This is an institution wide cover up and ignoring of the reports. It's about much more than Nasser. Dantonio and Izzo are likely done. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 They should be banned from NCAA participation period. This is disgusting and beyond belief. I know this won't happen but they should be kicked from NCAA as well as B1G. This is so far beyond what PSU did it amazes me. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Comfortably Numb said: It's much more than that. There were multiple reports of rape and sexual assault against several football and basketball players that got swept under the rug. This is an institution wide cover up and ignoring of the reports. It's about much more than Nasser. Dantonio and Izzo are likely done. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/betsy-devos-rolled-back-title-ix-protections-two-days-a-1822462475/amp Sept. 20, 2017: Lou Anna Simon meets with Betsy DeVos. You can even see a picture here of them chatting. Sept. 22, 2017: Obama-era Title IX guidance is withdrawn Oct. 10, 2017: Michigan State asks to have federal monitoring ended 1 Quote Link to comment
husker98 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 20 hours ago, Red Five said: Yup. And it makes you wonder how many other places this is going on. And how many other coaches/ADs are worried that their kingdoms could all come crashing down. 20 hours ago, Minnesota_husker said: The thing is this might be proven to be across multiple sports from Gymnastics, to rowing and even basketball and football swept things under the rug or flat out ignored allegations. AD had no choice but to leave(or he would be canned because this all falls on him) but the trickle down effect to Football and Basketball will be interesting. In Baylor and PSU cases everything was football focused, but this is multiple teams within the MSU athletic program which is really concerning as an organization they let it slide across the board. Truly sad stuff. It really makes me wonder how you stop this. They covered this up to protect their athletic programs. Does handing down the death penalty at Penn state, or Baylor, perhaps motivate programs to root out this cancer in their programs in fear of losing millions in dollars in revenue? Perhaps its time to find out with Michigan State since the abuse and athletic department indifference continue unabated. Quote Link to comment
Scarlet Overkill Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Red Five said: That almost defies belief. Quote Link to comment
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