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1 hour ago, OH HSKR FAN said:

Maybe I need to clarify my last point.   I was thinking too much about Eichorst/Riley than Riley himself.

 

Could they’ve waited until after Iowa to let Eichorst and Riley go?   It could have had an effect on the 2017 season.  Players could of maybe played harder if there was some sort of “confidence” in Riley?  Maybe we could have gone 6-6 (eek!). Then again maybe not?

 

 

It went down perfectly. Moos needed the time. Frost was a definite no in early October. We got the best coach in the country out of all the schools that were looking (and look at how many big schools we beat out), so I'm not sure how anyone could question how it was done.

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1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

It went down perfectly. Moos needed the time. Frost was a definite no in early October. We got the best coach in the country out of all the schools that were looking (and look at how many big schools we beat out), so I'm not sure how anyone could question how it was done.

I like the way it went down except I think they should have confronted, pulled Riley off the team buss like they did to Kiffin at USC.  Make him find his own way home.

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1 minute ago, dvdcrr said:

I like the way it went down except I think they should have confronted, pulled Riley off the team buss like they did to Kiffin at USC.  Make him find his own way home.

 

 

I feel like that made lots of people sympathetic with Kiffin and think USC is a bunch of aholes.

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4 hours ago, OH HSKR FAN said:

When he was hired back in 2014 I honestly had to do a double take. It did not make sense to me. I saw his age, career record and thought is this for real? Was this the best coach the Huskers could get? Remember at the time we had just let go of Pelini. He won a lot of games but left many Husker fans wanting more. After 7 years I think many people were tired of the behavior and lack of significant wins.

Riley, I believe was doomed to fail here for many reasons. He inherited a lousy plate from Pelini. Some of which included poor roster management and depth brought on by lazy recruiting. Secondly he did not have total player buy-in from key members of his 2015/2016 squads.

Many in the fanbase never gave him a chance from day one. We live in the social media age and it has been a barrage of negativity for most of his tenure especially this last season. Unfortunately we live in a "win right now" society in big time athletics. Nebraska fans are some of the best fans in college football. However some of them are naive to the landscape changes that have affected Nebraska football since Osborne's time here.

Administration has some blame for this as well. Did Eichorst put together a well orchestrated and intensive search? Or did he just go out and hire the antithesis of Pelini?
Recently, I've read where our fired AD hamstrung Riley in recruiting in regards to junior college players? For a coach that is trying to clean up a mess by your predecessor you tied a hand around your hire's back. Perhaps in a panic or from increased fan discontent, the powers that be fired AD Shawn Eichorst. I honestly felt that had an effect on some of the performances down the stretch.

Riley. The BIGGEST thing that I liked about him was the effort and organization in regards to recruiting. Selling Nebraska is not easy. Mike and his staff did the best job in this department since Osborne in my opinion. He showed that he was willing to replace coaches. I think in time he would have replaced a few more coaches if the decision makers were a little more patient. When it was time to play football there was a disconnect for some reason. His attitude on the field was very milquetoast. The players took on the behavior. Is that the best attitude to have when playing the game? Plus I think the hire of Bob Diaco was risky. The conversion of a 4-3 to a 3-4 for the college game takes time. Riley did not have such luxury of a 5 year build with the things I've mentioned earlier.

Lastly, with coaching there is a performance metric. 19-19 is not going to cut it at most colleges. Especially at Nebraska. Who's to say what may have happened had he gotten another year. Maybe things would have improved maybe they would have been status quo? We will never know.

He's a good man and I wish him the best. Sorry that it could not work out.

 

He is a good man apart from the fact that he took millions of dollars while knowing he was not giving it his best.  

I could correct it for you and say he "seems" like a nice man.

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15 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

Why do you think the bolded is true?

Because he is butt hurt. Another one of these, "he robbed millions of dollars fron the university that HIRED HIM. He should give it all back if he was a decent human!"

 

He didn't hoodwink NU into giving him a contract worth millions, they asked him to sign it. For the last time, be mad at Eichorst/Perlman, not Riley, for the last 3 years.

 

Can't see the forest for the trees. SMH.

 

For the record, Callahan was worse. All of that blame falls on Harvey Perlman as well.  

 

The last 15 years of futility are because of what Harv set in motion by thinking he is smarter than everyone else.

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1 hour ago, runningblind said:

Because he is butt hurt. Another one of these, "he robbed millions of dollars fron the university that HIRED HIM. He should give it all back if he was a decent human!"

 

He didn't hoodwink NU into giving him a contract worth millions, they asked him to sign it. For the last time, be mad at Eichorst/Perlman, not Riley, for the last 3 years.

 

Can't see the forest for the trees. SMH.

 

For the record, Callahan was worse. All of that blame falls on Harvey Perlman as well.  

 

The last 15 years of futility are because of what Harv set in motion by thinking he is smarter than everyone else.

He was the second worst. (Jenkins back in the day was THE worst because he was the first worst!) Steve P. gets a lot of the blame too! 

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1 hour ago, runningblind said:

Because he is butt hurt. Another one of these, "he robbed millions of dollars fron the university that HIRED HIM. He should give it all back if he was a decent human!"

 

He didn't hoodwink NU into giving him a contract worth millions, they asked him to sign it. For the last time, be mad at Eichorst/Perlman, not Riley, for the last 3 years.

 

Can't see the forest for the trees. SMH.

 

For the record, Callahan was worse. All of that blame falls on Harvey Perlman as well.  

 

The last 15 years of futility are because of what Harv set in motion by thinking he is smarter than everyone else.

How big was the power struggle between Tom and Harvey?  If there was one at all?

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1 hour ago, ladyhawke said:

He was the second worst. (Jenkins back in the day was THE worst because he was the first worst!) Steve P. gets a lot of the blame too! 

Steve P. Was awful yes, but he was hired by Perlman.

 

40 minutes ago, OH HSKR FAN said:

How big was the power struggle between Tom and Harvey?  If there was one at all?

Soemeone correct me if I am wrong, but I think Harv wanted to blaze his own trail, and I think there was a fair amount of struggle.  Perlman thought he was the smartest guy in the building.

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