Russia

[knapplc]

Very interesting thread about this attack. It happened deep in the Donestk region that Russia "annexed" in 2014.

 

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

Yeah….because these two issues are so tied together. 
 

 

[commando]

16 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Yeah….because these two issues are so tied together. 
 

 

ukrainian mothers are worried that their babies will be blown up

[commando]

[ZRod]

20 minutes ago, commando said:

How wild would it be if Ukraine ended up taking territory from Russia? Or occupied former Russian land when it was all said and done?

[Notre Dame Joe]

On 5/10/2022 at 5:00 AM, commando said:

invading those buffer states and making them part of russia kinda removes the buffer states.

Said states are supposed to play off the powers against each other.  Like Siam inbetween the French and British empires.

 

On 5/10/2022 at 8:11 PM, knapplc said:

 

The only no votes were Republicans.

 

And a bloated cheeto supporter was on here earlier today whinging about some twitterati with a Ukraine flag.

 

This seems like a call to arms for all reasonable-minded people.

Interesting choice of words.  IIRC one of our celebrity terrorists used them to explain that she didn't mean what everyone heard her say

[BigRedBuster]

 

[teachercd]

9 hours ago, ZRod said:

How wild would it be if Ukraine ended up taking territory from Russia? Or occupied former Russian land when it was all said and done?

It is like when you finally beat your Dad in arm wrestling or when the younger brother finally beats the older brother at something.

 

I think the boogeyman that was/is Russia is very very close to being gone as we know it.  Which will be almost an odd feeling for those of us that grew up with TV movies about WWIII, Red Dawn, Rocky IV...

 

It will take years and years but one day there will be classes on the collapse of current Russia.  It will start in 1989/1990ish and the ending will be about how they flexed on Ukraine only to end up on their knees.  

[knapplc]

Russia:  We're invading Ukraine to stop NATO expansion.

 

NATO: Hold my beer...

 

 

Sweden applying to join NATO in 3... 2... 1...

 

 

 

[knapplc]

This is just one of the problems of having an army devoid of non-commissioned officers who can direct troops on a unit level. The structure of Russia's army is bottom heavy, with generals and then masses and masses of boots, with the intention of overwhelming their opponent in an unstoppable initial wave - a blitzkrieg mentality learned from WWII.

 

After Afghanistan they committed to never fighting a protracted war again. Thus the massive army - fleshed out heavily by conscripts with little to no training - and very few mid-level officers underneath the generals. The plan for Ukraine was an overwhelming wave of troops and armor that would crush resistance by sheer numbers in a matter of days. Unfortunately for them, lack of training, supply logistics and general military knowledge - combined with the rebuild of the Ukrainian armed forces into a professional, small-unit fighting force - has led to this quagmire. And now it's leading them to slaughter.

 

What we're seeing here is lax troop security, because there are no sergeants at the unit level to kick butts for being this stupid. In the US Army, your sergeant (even your corporal) would have your a$$ in a sling for allowing your location to be so easily detected. A general in charge of a battle group doesn't have time to check each soldier's security. They're supposed to follow orders - which these idiots are clearly not doing. 

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

37 minutes ago, knapplc said:

This is just one of the problems of having an army devoid of non-commissioned officers who can direct troops on a unit level. The structure of Russia's army is bottom heavy, with generals and then masses and masses of boots, with the intention of overwhelming their opponent in an unstoppable initial wave - a blitzkrieg mentality learned from WWII.

 

After Afghanistan they committed to never fighting a protracted war again. Thus the massive army - fleshed out heavily by conscripts with little to no training - and very few mid-level officers underneath the generals. The plan for Ukraine was an overwhelming wave of troops and armor that would crush resistance by sheer numbers in a matter of days. Unfortunately for them, lack of training, supply logistics and general military knowledge - combined with the rebuild of the Ukrainian armed forces into a professional, small-unit fighting force - has led to this quagmire. And now it's leading them to slaughter.

 

What we're seeing here is lax troop security, because there are no sergeants at the unit level to kick butts for being this stupid. In the US Army, your sergeant (even your corporal) would have your a$$ in a sling for allowing your location to be so easily detected. A general in charge of a battle group doesn't have time to check each soldier's security. They're supposed to follow orders - which these idiots are clearly not doing. 

 

 

So, these are cell phone SIM cards?

[knapplc]

11 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, these are cell phone SIM cards?

 

Yep. And they are likely the soldiers' personal phones. 

[nic]

I have been seeing articles on Russia stopping with what it has under control. ...???....maybe take the Kherson region in the east and claim 'success'. This is just speculation at this point. 

 

Russia has signaled intent to end 'current phase' of invasion, cut losses with Kherson referendum: expert | Fox News

Russia withdrawing troops after 'heavy losses', proving 'inability to capture key Ukrainian cities,' UK says | Fox News

 

[nic]

I wonder if people still think Russia is a conventional threat?

 

(13) Russia will be "forced to take retaliatory steps" if Finland joins NATO, Russian foreign ministry says (cnn.com)

 

 

[commando]

73 in 1 event is a special military operation