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3 hours ago, commando said:

this tucker carlson interview of trump seems to be exactly what putin ordered.

 

 

 

Omfg.....Montenegro might attack us. Who knew???  

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On Russian state TV, Putin has already won the summit with Trump

 

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Trump has relayed low expectations for the summit: “I think we go into that meeting not looking for so much.” But that’s not the case for the Kremlin. The state media reveals that Putin’s Russia expects everything, in exchange for nothing. Based on Trump’s statements, they predict the impending recognition of the Russian occupation of Crimea and “the creeping removal of sanctions.” They also believe that Trump will withdraw his stated objections to the Nord-Stream 2 gas pipeline to Germany.

 

Officially, Russia admits nothing about interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections, but Kremlin-controlled state media is not as reserved in its messages designed for internal consumption. Russian state TV hosts brazenly assert, “Trump is ours,” and joke that the U.S. lawmakers traveled to Russia “to make deals with our hackers, so they can rig the midterms in favor of Trump’s team.” They gleefully anticipate that Putin will run circles around “political neophyte” Trump, “educating” him about world events from the Russian perspective.

 

This is unfortunate. I don't know what to call this, but I can assure you it is not called winning.

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10 hours ago, commando said:

this tucker carlson interview of trump seems to be exactly what putin ordered.

 

 

 

Jesus Christ. What a tool. Yeah, why should the self proclaimed Leader of the Free World be obligated to defend other allied free nation's when attacked?

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2 minutes ago, ZRod said:

 

Jesus Christ. What a tool. Yeah, why should the self proclaimed Leader of the Free World be obligated to defend other allied free nation's when attacked?

he isn't the leader of the free world.  he is "america first".....and russia supporter

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58 minutes ago, commando said:

he isn't the leader of the free world.  he is "america first".....and russia supporter

I was referring the US in whole, not Trump.

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1 hour ago, knapplc said:

 

 

 

Off topic, but we we're voting to elect two of the most un-photogenic people I have ever seen in 2016 :lol:

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Hmm... Maybe I quoted the wrong threas

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8 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Omfg.....Montenegro might attack us. Who knew???  

Montenegro...Putins next target?

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11 minutes ago, commando said:

Montenegro...Putins next target?

oh yeah...it probably is.   looked it up on wikipedia and it is almost certainly on the agenda for putin.  from the wiki link

 

In October 2016, for the day of the parliamentary election, a coup d'état was prepared by a group of persons that included leaders of the Montenegrin opposition, Serbian nationals and Russian agents; the coup was prevented.[31] In 2017, fourteen people, including two Russian nationals and two Montenegrin opposition leaders, Andrija Mandić and Milan Knežević, were indicted for their alleged roles in the coup attempt on charges such as "preparing a conspiracy against the constitutional order and the security of Montenegro" and an "attempted terrorist act."[32]

In June 2017, Montenegro formally became a member of NATO, an eventuality that had been supported and opposed by approximately same share of the country′s population[33] and had triggered a promise of retaliatory actions on the part of Russia′s government.[34][35][36]

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WH staff furious wt Trump over his press conference.  Kelly tells Congressional leaders to speak out against the

words Trump used and then pushes Trump to correct his verbiage.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/the-west-wing-revolts-after-trump-embraces-putin

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As he flew home from Helsinki on Air Force One following his disastrous press conference with Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump reacted with surprise at the horror and outrage that was being expressed by much of the American political world. By the time he landed, the surprise had turned to anger. “He was enraged there was a lack of people out there defending him,” one Republican close to the White House told me. The mood among West Wing advisers was downright funereal. “This was the nightmare scenario,” another Republican in frequent contact with the administration said.

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While National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to a source, thought Trump’s remarks were ill-advised, he believed that walking them back would only add fuel to the outrage pyre and make the president look weak. But Chief of Staff John Kelly was irate. According to a source, he told Trump it would make things worse for him with Robert Mueller. He also exerted pressure to try to get the president to walk back his remarks. According to three sources familiar with the situation, Kelly called around to Republicans on Capitol Hill and gave them the go-ahead to speak out against Trump. (The White House did not respond to a request for comment.) Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan held televised press conferences to assert that Russia did meddle in the election.

 

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23 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

I've seen some comments from conservative Trumpers asking...why all the outrage when everyone wants good relations with other countries.

 

 

Here are  the top two responses that come to mind:

 

1) We're you outraged when a football player took a knee during a football game to protest racial profiling by police?  Because the President just disrespected our entire intelligence community and accepted the word of a KGB agent on the world's biggest stage. (extra points for pointing out that "good relations with other countries" include the longtime NATO allies Trump openly trolled, creating the exact kind of division Vladimir Putin craves.) 

 

2) Imagine Obama doing the exact same thing. 

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5 hours ago, TGHusker said:

WH staff furious wt Trump over his press conference.  Kelly tells Congressional leaders to speak out against the

words Trump used and then pushes Trump to correct his verbiage.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/the-west-wing-revolts-after-trump-embraces-putin

 

 

 

Donald Trump's ego is usually going to control these things, but the Putin meeting came with a tough choice for him: 

 

1) Trump cannot admit to anything that would tarnish that amazing election-night victory or question the legitimacy of his Presidency.  In that world, Russian interference simply couldn't happen.

 

2) But he can't look like Vladimir Putin's bitch.  That might rile even the loyalists. 

 

So what is now disturbingly clear: Donald Trump ignored everyone's advice and went all-in on Option 1, a pathological choice given how easy it would have been for him to scale it back a couple ticks. 

 

This also suggests he doesn't think he looked like Vladimir Putin's bitch at all. In Donald Trump's mind he would have been big and forceful and awesome, especially in his attacks on the real enemy: the FBI and the press. He didn't see any of this the way the rest of the world saw it, which is why Vladmir Putin is smirking his ass off.

 

The only other theory is that Vladimir Putin wasn't playing him: he actually owns him. That Trump delivered the message -- public and private -- that had always come with the deal. I'm still not ready to go there, but it's so much more believable this afternoon.

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4 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said:

Just mind-numbingly pathetic at this point. Great photo though.

 

 

And it makes even better, the 'stable genius' can't even spell collusion correctly.     And reports are the crossed out section refers to 'punishing those who did interfere' or something along those lines.

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53 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

 

Donald Trump's ego is usually going to control these things, but the Putin meeting came with a tough choice for him: 

 

1) Trump cannot admit to anything that would tarnish that amazing election-night victory or question the legitimacy of his Presidency.  In that world, Russian interference simply couldn't happen.

 

2) But he can't look like Vladimir Putin's bitch.  That might rile even the loyalists. 

 

So what is now disturbingly clear: Donald Trump ignored everyone's advice and went all-in on Option 1, a pathological choice given how easy it would have been for him to scale it back a couple ticks. 

 

This also suggests he doesn't think he looked like Vladimir Putin's bitch at all. In Donald Trump's mind he would have been big and forceful and awesome, especially in his attacks on the real enemy: the FBI and the press. He didn't see any of this the way the rest of the world saw it, which is why Vladmir Putin is smirking his ass off.

 

The only other theory is that Vladimir Putin wasn't playing him: he actually owns him. That Trump delivered the message -- public and private -- that had always come with the deal. I'm still not ready to go there, but it's so much more believable this afternoon.

 

Someone asked HuckaSanders today if anyone made a recording of the private meeting between the two.

 

She said she wasn't aware of one, but oh boy, would anybody be surprised if Putin made one anyway in secret? Even if we presuppose he had nothing over Trump going into the meeting, which is a hell of a stretch, he immediately gets leverage on him to use moving forward.

 

Just another reason having a private meeting with a man who wants to destroy America was a terrible idea.

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2 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said:

 

Someone asked HuckaSanders today if anyone made a recording of the private meeting between the two.

 

She said she wasn't aware of one, but oh boy, would anybody be surprised if Putin made one anyway in secret? Even if we presuppose he had nothing over Trump going into the meeting, which is a hell of a stretch, he immediately gets leverage on him to use moving forward.

 

Just another reason having a private meeting with a man who wants to destroy America was a terrible idea.

I'm guessing half the world's intelligence agencies have that meeting recorded.

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The GOP isn't going to save us from this, and I think too many dumb voters will stop us from doing so. It still seems like a crapshoot on whether the GOP will lose the House which is f#&%ing ridiculous. Mueller really needs concrete video and audio evidence of wrongdoing, so solid that they can't do anything but act against Trump.

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20 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

This is just getting stupid. 

 

 

 it's like a video game and the stupidity keeps leveling up with this administration.

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13 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Good thread on the subject. 

Reading that thread makes it all the more clear - Trump is a collasal failure, a puppet, a Manchurian president.  I cannot see it any other way. There is no other explanations for his continued support of Russia/Putin and dissing of our friends.  Guys and Gals  let me be so bold to say : WE'VE GOT A TRAITOR IN THE WHITE HOUSE.   At this point I need evidence to the contrary to change my mind on the subject.     Circumstantial evidence is just too overwhelming. The sooner Mueller or any one else can present the hard evidence the better off we will be as a country.  But there will be some pain in the extraction of this cancer - especially because we don't know how deep it goes.  Could the VP be compromised - maybe not directly by Putin but by having knowledge that he isn't sharing??   

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^^^^ I've not been a fan of Clapper. He seems to be a media hound.  However, I agree wt him on this.

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No surprise but revealing.

 

I Was a White House Stenographer. Trump Wasn’t a Fan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/opinion/trump-recording-press-news.html

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But now, we were faced with a president who didn’t want to be recorded. Perhaps he didn’t fully understand the role of the stenographer. That would make sense, since his administration had rebuffed every invitation from the Obama transition team during an inherently stressful time, including to learn how to keep the lights on.

 

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MAYBE...when he says "and others" he is secretly signaling to investigators to look deeper into his campaign.  Donald Jr. actually is the one that has dirt on him and Trump is scared of him.

 

:dunno

 

 

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it occurs to me that tRUmp isn't just destroying everything Obama did.  he is also destroying Reagans victory over the soviet union and seems determined to help Putin make Russia great again.

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1 hour ago, commando said:

it occurs to me that tRUmp isn't just destroying everything Obama did.  he is also destroying Reagans victory over the soviet union and seems determined to help Putin make Russia great again.

You're right.  

 

Another thing that I wish people close to him would knock him over the head with is the quote that he keeps spewing that relations with Russia has never been worse than what it is now.

 

It's like the guy has absolutely no concept of history.  

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3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

WTF

 

 

 

Two security councils??  Does she mean our intelligence community and theirs working together?  

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1 hour ago, knapplc said:

WTF

 

 

I really think this past week has cemented Trumps idea that he can do whatever he wants and no one can stop him . He got away with having a one on one meeting that shouldn’t have happened , got away with releasing little or nothing about what happened there , and got away with lying to cover up his disastrous press conference afterwards . I fully believe he will keep pushing the envelope now and I don’t think anything will be done about it  either . 

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4 hours ago, commando said:

it occurs to me that tRUmp isn't just destroying everything Obama did.  he is also destroying Reagans victory over the soviet union and seems determined to help Putin make Russia great again.

Yep.  Deep down you got to know the KGB Putin hates Reagan's guts and legacy.  Nothing like using a puppet to destroy it.

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That any American who loves this country still supports this guy amazes me. We have members right here on HuskerBoard who will not denounce Trump or any of these actions.

 

These are the acts of a traitor.  Period.  Anyone trying to explain this away is not a patriot.

 

 

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No Way to Run a Superpower

 

On Thursday, Putin gave a public address to Russian diplomats in which he claimed that specific “useful agreements” were reached with Trump in their private, one-on-one meeting at the summit, a private meeting that Trump himself insisted on. Putin’s announcement came a day after his Ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Antonov, said that Trump had made “important verbal agreements” with Putin on arms control and other matters. The Russians, Antonov said, were ready to get moving on implementing them. The White House, meanwhile, has said nothing about what the two men may have agreed to in private, although Trump tweeted Thursday morning that he and Putin had discussed everything from nuclear proliferation to Syria, Ukraine, and trade, and that he looked forward to a second meeting with the Russian President soon, to follow up. On Thursday afternoon, the White House confirmed that Trump plans to invite Putin to Washington in the fall for another summit.

 

Days after the Helsinki summit, Trump’s advisers have offered no information—literally zero—about any such agreements. His own government apparently remains unaware about any deals that Trump made with Putin, or any plans for a second meeting, and public briefings from the State Department and Pentagon have offered no elaboration except to make clear that they are embarrassingly uninformed days after the summit.

 

Unlike Putin, Trump did not brief his own diplomats on the Helsinki meeting. The American Secretary of State, national-security adviser, and Ambassador to Moscow, who attended the lunch after Trump and Putin’s private session, have been publicly silent on the substance of the meetings, leaving it to the Russians, for now, to make claims about what was actually said and done behind closed doors between the two Presidents. Even as Putin was publicly talking of “agreements” in Moscow on Thursday, the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, gave a radio interview to the conservative talk-show host Hugh Hewitt. The bulk of their conversation concerned a meeting that Pompeo is hosting next week to promote “religious freedom” internationally. The Secretary of State was neither asked about nor chose to elaborate on what happened in Helsinki, and the only question about Russia concerned whether Pompeo had been alerted, before the Helsinki summit, to the Justice Department indictments of a dozen Russian military-intelligence officers in connection with the 2016 Russian hacking on Trump’s behalf. “I can’t talk about that, Hugh,” Pompeo said.

 

 

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On 7/17/2018 at 9:47 AM, TGHusker said:

Agree - most of the time, the simplest, most straightforward,obvious answer is the correct answer.

1.  Early 2000s Trump Inc run's into financial problems

2.  Trump Inc - near bankruptcy

3.  Banks stop providing loans

4.  Trump gets loan from foreign bank (thanks Judge Kennedy's son)

5.  Russians start buying whole floors on Trump projects

6. Trump's properties are heavily leveraged by Russian cash

7.  Trump refuses to release his taxes

8.  Trump tower meeting wt the Russians

9.  Russian get involved in USA elections to defeat (1st option) or 2ndly to discredit a Clinton presidency

10.  Russia voices disapproval of Romney selection as SOS as he is even harder on Russia than Clinton

11. Trump acting like a lap dog to Putin yesterday

 

It is clear to me that the simple, clear, straightforward answer is that Putin has the goods on Trump and Trump has to do his bidding.

 

To the bolded, I'm just now connecting dots in my head. Anyone else remember when Trump kept saying the election would have been rigged if he didn't win? I attributed it to his fragile ego at the time, but I'm ready to say he was working for Putin with those statements. What's the penalty for treason?

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1 hour ago, mrandyk said:

What's the penalty for treason?

 

Nothing, when an entire political party is willing to take every available action to obfuscate and protect you and you're allowed to nominate judges to the highest court in the land who will say that the president is above the law.

 

Trump is exposing all the flaws and cracks in our system. We're all going to have to hope Mueller uncovers very obvious fire just under the surface that's producing all this smoke and see if the GOP blinks.

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3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

 

Just got out of WH meeting with @realDonaldTrump. I restated to him what I have said in public: John Brennan and others partisans should have their security clearances revoked.

 

I thought this guy was well respected at one point. Did something happen to him or is this just him?

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