BigRedBuster Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: Biden is giving up control by allowing Putin to decide where the red lines will be drawn. A strong leader sets the boundaries and the other side can dare to cross them. The only explanation that makes sense is that Russia communicated sending fighter planes to UKR is an act of war. Agreeing to it makes Biden look somehow weaker in Putin's eyes. And....where would you suggest Biden draw those lines? Sure seems like he and NATO have drawn them at the border of NATO and then help Ukraine as much as possible. Are you saying that red line should be the Ukraine border? So, we should be sending in troops to kick Russia out? 3 Link to comment
commando Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: And....where would you suggest Biden draw those lines? Sure seems like he and NATO have drawn them at the border of NATO and then help Ukraine as much as possible. Are you saying that red line should be the Ukraine border? So, we should be sending in troops to kick Russia out? NDJoe sure seems to be wanting all out war Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, commando said: NDJoe sure seems to be wanting all out war I keep seeing Republicans roll their eyes and act disgusted with how Biden is handling the situation. But, not once have I had them give a significant change in action they think needs to be taken. 1 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, commando said: NDJoe sure seems to be wanting all out war You sure don't read my posts but see what you think an R would say. 58 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I keep seeing Republicans roll their eyes and act disgusted with how Biden is handling the situation. But, not once have I had them give a significant change in action they think needs to be taken. Here are some actual Rs. Even the empty suit coalition says we should have given UKR the planes. Quote More than 40 Republican senators have written an open letter in which they say they "strongly disagree" with Biden's stance. They have now called on him to immediately "facilitate the transfer of aircraft and air defence systems". ... The letter is led by Iowa senator Joni Ernst and Utah's Mitt Romney - and includes signatures from most of their Republican Senate colleagues, including minority leader Mitch McConnell. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/republicans-call-for-biden-to-send-jets-to-ukraine/ar-AAUWv9h?ocid=uxbndlbing 2 Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: You sure don't read my posts but see what you think an R would say. Here are some actual Rs. Even the empty suit coalition says we should have given UKR the planes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/republicans-call-for-biden-to-send-jets-to-ukraine/ar-AAUWv9h?ocid=uxbndlbing I wonder if the US military agrees with those Republicans about the planes? 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 The Republican plan: 1) See what Biden does 2) Demand he do the opposite 3) Have followers repeat this mindlessly 4)... Profit It's super easy to win this for the Republicans when their constituents don't think through the ramifications of their actions. 6 Link to comment
commando Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: You sure don't read my posts but see what you think an R would say. Here are some actual Rs. Even the empty suit coalition says we should have given UKR the planes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/republicans-call-for-biden-to-send-jets-to-ukraine/ar-AAUWv9h?ocid=uxbndlbing so those 40 year old planes from poland(all 28 of them) will tip air superiority to the ukrainians? russia only has 5,500 planes in it's air force. and FWIW...ukraine still has 80% of the planes they started the war with....56 now, they aren't using them because of all the russian AA. the warplanes issue is really a non issue. keep getting drones, hand held anti tank and anti aircraft misles to the ukrainians and pray for an extended muddy season. the russian economy is in free fall and hopefully that will force russia to ease back. 2 Link to comment
UniversalMartin Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, knapplc said: The Republican plan: 1) See what Biden does 2) Demand he do the opposite 3) Have followers repeat this mindlessly 4)... Profit It's super easy to win this for the Republicans when their constituents don't think through the ramifications of their actions. Completely agree but will add a caveat. The same can be said for staunch democrats in the "we would do the opposite". I am just completely at a loss how we let the noisest radical minority in each party dictate the news/sm narrative. We all (the sensible middle) just sit here and let the highschool theatrics play out. 1 Link to comment
nic Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 https://abc7ny.com/russia-international-space-station-mark-vande-hei-iss-american-astronaut/11639556/ Some outlets saying Russia is threatening to strand our astronaut at the space station. Other saying it's not true. I hated it when we started relying on Russia for transport. Thanks Obama. On the other hand we have Elon so screw you Russia. 2 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 hours ago, NebraskaHarry said: I wonder if the US military agrees with those Republicans about the planes? You don't need to wonder what the Ukrainian military thinks. 2 Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said: You don't need to wonder what the Ukrainian military thinks. You dont need to wonder about what the Swedish military thinks. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 hours ago, knapplc said: The Republican plan: 1) See what Biden does 2) Demand he do the opposite 3) Have followers repeat this mindlessly 4)... Profit It's super easy to win this for the Republicans when their constituents don't think through the ramifications of their actions. "Repeal and replace Ukraine!" Link to comment
knapplc Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, nic said: I hated it when we started relying on Russia for transport. Thanks Obama. Because it'll be funny, please explain how President Obama "started relying on Russia for transport." Link to comment
UniversalMartin Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, knapplc said: Because it'll be funny, please explain how President Obama "started relying on Russia for transport." Just for fun I got $20 on. Flat earth theory 1 Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, knapplc said: Because it'll be funny, please explain how President Obama "started relying on Russia for transport." It was well known that Obama ended the NASA as we knew it. 1 Link to comment
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