2018 NFL Combine

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, KingBlank said:

I type from my phone and post.  I do not go back to re-read a message board post.   

 

I just skimmed that entire thread and found zero media members calling out Gates specifically.   Again you and that other guy believe anything you read on here.  

 

Ric Flair 

"Given how delusional our prior staff was about the level of effort, discipline, work ethic, etc. is necessary to succeed, it wouldn’t be too surprising if some of that rubbed off on the players. I almost feel sorry for the players that are left. If they’ve forgotten how to work, the offseason is going to feel like SEAL training."

 

That is an exact quote from you from that thread.   Are saying it's Riley's fault the players aren't strong or is it Nick Gates fault?  It's Nick Gates fault the coach didn't properly prepare a team to play on Saturdays?  You just said they forgot how to work due to a coach!  But Nick Gates doesn't deserve to be Husker because of this?

 

You feel sorry for them,  except Nick Gates because you professionally know what a offensive linemen looks like?  You can weasel all you want you are caught in the middle, your argument is garbage.   

 

Here's the best part, you are bashing on guy who didn't want to take part in THE WORST FOOTBALL PHYSICAL PREPARATION in Nebraska history.   So Nick Gates doesn't work hard because his coaches tell him to do something a certain way?   Clearly he wasn't the only one working hard,  ex Lamar Jackson.  Is he suppose to start his own strength and conditioning department?  

 

Wooooooo RIGHT HERE! 

 

Those arguments aren’t mutually exclusive. The Riley regime failed in part because it didn’t require the players to spend the time they should have on strength and conditioning. But college kids are adults and should be able to figure out some of that on their own. Certainly Gates knew where the weight room was on campus. If he’d spent more time there, perhaps the arrival of Frost and actual college workouts wouldn’t have terrified him into declaring for the draft.

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

 

It's been sourced by a lot of people closer to the program than you or I that Gates' work ethic was questionable, at best. Was he helped by the previous coaching staff? Probably not; he should have stayed at RT in college, and will have to move to G in order to stick in the NFL. Was he a cancer? Absolutely not. Even with the lack of worth ethic and buy-in, he was still our most talented O-lineman the last two years. With that comes the responsibility of being isolated, on an island, against the D's best pass rusher on most occasions. That's part of the job. 

 

I’m going to respectfully disagree with the cancer part Cdog. When you have a guy who is arguably your most talented lineman and he’s visibly loafing and doesn’t take conditioning seriously, that attitude rubs off on others. Gates should have been leading the others to the locker room, not providing an example of how lazy a player can be and still get playing time. 

[KingBlank]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

 

Those arguments aren’t mutually exclusive. The Riley regime failed in part because it didn’t require the players to spend the time they should have on strength and conditioning. But college kids are adults and should be able to figure out some of that on their own. Certainly Gates knew where the weight room was on campus. If he’d spent more time there, perhaps the arrival of Frost and actual college workouts wouldn’t have terrified him into declaring for the draft.

Again you have no idea of any of that,  terrified into going into the biggest interview of his life?   You just keep digging yourself further into your chicken or the egg argument.   The Riley regime failed because he is an absolutely horrible head coach.   Yep so coach tells you to do this exactly this way,  so you should do it the completely other way.   None of your argument makes any sense man.

[KingBlank]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

 

I’m going to respectfully disagree with the cancer part Cdog. When you have a guy who is arguably your most talented lineman and he’s visibly loafing and doesn’t take conditioning seriously, that attitude rubs off on others. Gates should have been leading the others to the locker room, not providing an example of how lazy a player can be and still get playing time. 

Now it's Gate's fault that the entire team sucked?   Next your going to tell me he personally hired Riley so he wouldn't have to work out. 

Edited March 6, 2018 by KingBlank

[Ric Flair]

21 minutes ago, KingBlank said:

Again you have no idea of any of that,  terrified into going into the biggest interview of his life?   You just keep digging yourself further into your chicken or the egg argument.   The Riley regime failed because he is an absolutely horrible head coach.   Yep so coach tells you to do this exactly this way,  so you should do it the completely other way.   None of your argument makes any sense man.

 

Riley is a horrible head coach and that explains why Nick Gates could clearly find his way to the cafeteria but not to the weight room? Riley’s main deficit in terms of S&C seems to have been not requiring the players to work out if they didn’t want to. Gates’ main deficit in terms of character and work ethic was not working out and keeping himself in shape regardless.

[PasstheDamnBallGuy]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

 

Riley is a horrible head coach and that explains why Nick Gates could clearly find his way to the cafeteria but not to the weight room? Riley’s main deficit in terms of S&C seems to have been not requiring the players to work out if they didn’t want to. Gates’ main deficit in terms of character and work ethic was not working out and keeping himself in shape regardless.

 

If every player was self motivated then we would need a lot less from these coaches. A large percentage of people will slack off when allowed to without consequence and I'm sure that number is even higher for college aged kids.  What I took from most of the reports about him, was that he didnt want to spend another year working without getting paid. Anyone who claims to not understand that sentiment is a liar. 

[KingBlank]

3 hours ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

 

If every player was self motivated then we would need a lot less from these coaches. A large percentage of people will slack off when allowed to without consequence and I'm sure that number is even higher for college aged kids.  What I took from most of the reports about him, was that he didnt want to spend another year working without getting paid. Anyone who claims to not understand that sentiment is a liar. 

Amen!

[Making Chimichangas]

On 3/5/2018 at 8:56 PM, KingBlank said:

1.  You have zero proff of this

 

2.  He had idiots, I repeat, idiots coaching him

 

3.  As a natual talent linemen in his first year, he was better before they changed to an awful offense and tried to isolate him.  This wasted his natural ability.

 

4. He was isolated many times on the best rusher on defense, and was repeated left on island.  Had help backs continually miss assignments on his help side.  

 

5.  Lee incorrectly assesed defense blitzs and rush formations that pulled the left guard off and made him have to choose which man to block.

 

All of your statement is conjecture, with no proff, valid arguements or points.  Maybe he didn’t want to play for one more year in a completely different offense, 3 in 4 years basically.  Possibly he wanted to go try to make some serious cash, when his chance might be the best to do so.   Your goal is to be some cool guy while bashing a kid who started almost every freaking game he was on campus for.  Ya screw that guy who might want to try to make a living at this glorious game.  Scott Frost would love you and fans like you, he probably would invite you in for advice.  I for one couldn’t think of a person on this board that would be prefect for mental and physical evaluation of college football players then you.  Sometimes I swear people like you don’t actually watch the game and are more worried about some incredible story that has about 37 falsehoods.

 

There was a story in the Omaha World Herald or Lincoln Journal Star lazt yeat in which Gates himself admitted he had a tendency to be lazy.  He also said it was an entire OL problem.  The truth is ugly here, but Nick Gates is lazy and does have a weak work ethic and his play showed it.

 

As I said before though, best of luck to him in the NFL because he's absolutely going to need it.