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Hate to spread any unfounded rumors but this one seemed interesting enough to throw out in rumorville.

Heard third hand that POB was shown the door out of team meeting today and did not take any reps in practice. Could be a temporary thing, or permanent? Or complete BS...IDK.

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36 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said:

Hate to spread any unfounded rumors but this one seemed interesting enough to throw out in rumorville.

Heard third hand that POB was shown the door out of team meeting today and did not take any reps in practice. Could be a temporary thing, or permanent? Or complete BS...IDK.

Rumor is that isn’t the rumor I heard.

 

Heard he was told he is behind others on the depth chart right now and that is potentially why he declined interviews. Then Callahan said he had classes which is why he missed the interviews.

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39 minutes ago, ScottyIce said:

Rumor is that isn’t the rumor I heard.

 

Heard he was told he is behind others on the depth chart right now and that is potentially why he declined interviews. Then Callahan said he had classes which is why he missed the interviews.

 

I guess the version I heard, from somebody inside, was a lot more confrontational than a simple depth chart issue. Either way, if my Version doesn't prove out I won't be sharing any more info from that source.

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Well, as reported by several media sources, he was at practice but declined interviews afterward, so I'm not buying the "did not take any reps at practice".

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7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Well, as reported by several media sources, he was at practice but declined interviews afterward, so I'm not buying the "did not take any reps at practice".

 

Sounds like the "no reps" is an exaggeration but Frost did say that they started giving the upper-depth-chart guys a bigger share of reps so it's possible he didn't get as many as he had been.

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42 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said:

 

I guess the version I heard, from somebody inside, was a lot more confrontational than a simple depth chart issue. Either way, if my Version doesn't prove out I won't be sharing any more info from that source.

 

 

We'll probably never get confirmation of it, but if he transfers it'll prove it wasn't for sure wrong :P

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1 hour ago, Comfortably Numb said:

 

I guess the version I heard, from somebody inside, was a lot more confrontational than a simple depth chart issue. Either way, if my Version doesn't prove out I won't be sharing any more info from that source.

Wasn’t trying to disagree with you at all or say right or wrong, sorry.

 

I was just making it clear that there was another story out there.

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One of the media guys yesterday said that having class wasn't the reason why he declined interviews. I'll see if I can find it. 

 

EDIT: Found it - it's from Sip: http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/life-in-the-red/driving-for-takeaways-from-husker-qb-media-day/article_992c8f58-3d17-11e8-9831-df49c0e05dec.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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3 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

One of the media guys yesterday said that having class wasn't the reason why he declined interviews. I'll see if I can find it. 

 

EDIT: Found it - it's from Sip: http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/life-in-the-red/driving-for-takeaways-from-husker-qb-media-day/article_992c8f58-3d17-11e8-9831-df49c0e05dec.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

 

3 hours ago, teachercd said:

Sam and sever said it wasn’t a class issue

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Completely speculation here but anyone raise an eyebrow about Martinez’ comment about the QB competition about “just having to be a good person”

 

Again totally speculation and could mean nothing but the possibility exists that he could’ve been referencing something.

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3 hours ago, Minnesota_husker said:

Your source better have some salt water aquarium guy connections or I aint buying it. 

 

Or come from an article of clothing. 

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Anyone else heard POB has asked for his release and will not participate in Spring Game? :blink:

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Tons of people are just pulling for POB to fail.  Really is despicable.  Been that way on this board since the season ended.

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11 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

Tons of people are just pulling for POB to fail.  Really is despicable.  Been that way on this board since the season ended.

 

I guess I must be missing that thread.  :dunno

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9 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

I guess I must be missing that thread.  :dunno

 

 

Not a thread.  It's called everyone demoting him to 4th string in their lineups or saying he'd transfer after spring.  Even if they're right, they're still wrong.  Saying he's too slow, and so on and so forth.  It's been the running narrative in most QB discussion on this board for quite sometime.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

Tons of people are just pulling for POB to fail.  Really is despicable.  Been that way on this board since the season ended.

 

No one is doing that.  We want the best fit for the system being run.  If Riley was still here, I think he'd be aces. 

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16 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

Not a thread.  It's called everyone demoting him to 4th string in their lineups or saying he'd transfer after spring.  Even if they're right, they're still wrong.  Saying he's too slow, and so on and so forth.  It's been the running narrative in most QB discussion on this board for quite sometime.

 

 

 

Everyone? The narrative in most QB discussions?

 

Funny I hadn't garnered that from these pages before. The idea I got was that most everyone wanted him to supplant Lee as starter and be successful. Guess I'll have to read things much closer. Personally I don't care who the QB is as long as he's good and not a turnover machine.

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37 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

Mods - can we merge this into one of the other POB threads on this topic?

Sorry....I started this after hearing what I heard. I didn't know there was another or multiple threads discussing this. I didn't want it in the standard football forum because of it's possible rumory nature.

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8 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said:

Sorry....I started this after hearing what I heard. I didn't know there was another or multiple threads discussing this. I didn't want it in the standard football forum because of it's possible rumory nature.

 

 

I don't think she meant yours (?)  There was a new post on POB transferring.

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10 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said:

Sorry....I started this after hearing what I heard. I didn't know there was another or multiple threads discussing this. I didn't want it in the standard football forum because of it's possible rumory nature.

 

Nothing to apologize for, man.  You're good.

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I did see that Frost said the spring game wont really tell them anymore about the players ability.  He also said he would meet with the players individually and let them know where they stand and get their opinion on his assessment.  

 

Frost isn’t going to sugar coat anything. He will tell folks where they are at and let them know what it means.  I also think that if a player isn’t 100% on board, they might be shown the door.

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1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

Not a thread.  It's called everyone demoting him to 4th string in their lineups or saying he'd transfer after spring.  Even if they're right, they're still wrong.  Saying he's too slow, and so on and so forth.  It's been the running narrative in most QB discussion on this board for quite sometime.

 

There is a HUGE difference between any of that and "pulling for POB to fail".

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I think three things are largely playing against POB in the fan base right now: his perceived lack of fit in the offense, not taking part in interviews this week (for whatever the reason) and memories of the rumors that he rubbed teammates the wrong way early in his career.

 

That's a far cry from hoping he fails. I sincerely hope he's bought in and is playing his butt off for that starting spot, and I hope that's what he continues to do his entire career here.

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1 hour ago, Comfortably Numb said:

 

Everyone? The narrative in most QB discussions?

 

Funny I hadn't garnered that from these pages before. The idea I got was that most everyone wanted him to supplant Lee as starter and be successful. Guess I'll have to read things much closer. Personally I don't care who the QB is as long as he's good and not a turnover machine.

Not having a turnover prone QB is key. How long ha it been? I like TM and TA, but both gave up the ball too often. I have already blocked our most recent QB out of my mind, but I see the Huskers were leaders in throwing ints last year.

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I want frequent changes in the QB depth chart because all of our QBs are improving and learning the offense so fast that they keep leapfrogging each other.

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Frost did make a comment that once the newness wears off guys will need to focus and keeping working hard. The novelty wears off and all your left with is hard work. He then said most guys are doing a good job of that. 

 

Most is not all so some guys are starting to slack? Maybe POB? 

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26 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Frost did make a comment that once the newness wears off guys will need to focus and keeping working hard. The novelty wears off and all your left with is hard work. He then said most guys are doing a good job of that. 

 

Most is not all so some guys are starting to slack? Maybe POB? 

 

 

 

Eh, at that point he was talking about the whole team, and of any of the position groups I would think QB would be the least likely to slack off. They have the toughest job when learning a new offense, especially changing to one like Frost's.

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I doubt anyone is rooting against POB, but as soon as Gebbia committed he got the backup QB treatment where he was the answer to all our problems and leap frogged POB for most fans. He seems like a hard working likable kid so it makes sense why people are more on his side. Everyone in here is just taking guesses at which QB they think is better so its natural for some bias to leak in. If POB does go somewhere else i hope he gets a chance to play. He really has one hell of an arm.  If i were to guess probably the best we have on campus right now. 

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4 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

Not a thread.  It's called everyone demoting him to 4th string in their lineups or saying he'd transfer after spring.  Even if they're right, they're still wrong.  Saying he's too slow, and so on and so forth.  It's been the running narrative in most QB discussion on this board for quite sometime.

 

 

 

I'm in agreement with @Dilly Dilly, we just want whoever emerges as the #1 QB to be the best guy and fit for Frost's offense.

 

And for the record, I agree that POB is not the best fit for Frost's offense.  I'm not sure where he is on the depth chart, but I'm pretty confident it's not 1st or 2nd.  And if he proves me (and others) wrong...good for him.

 

I don't dislike POB.  By all accounts he's a great young man.  I just don't think he has the kind of wheels necessary to be successful in this offense.

 

And if he does leave because he doesn't like conversations about him being 4th on the depth chart of internet message boards, then he was probably never going to win the job anyway.

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8 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Not a thread.  It's called everyone demoting him to 4th string in their lineups or saying he'd transfer after spring.  Even if they're right, they're still wrong.  Saying he's too slow, and so on and so forth. 

 

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9 hours ago, Comfortably Numb said:

Sorry....I started this after hearing what I heard. I didn't know there was another or multiple threads discussing this. I didn't want it in the standard football forum because of it's possible rumory nature.

No need to apologize - there was a brand new thread started *not by you and I just thought it was appropriate to put them all together.

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I guess I don’t get where the POB is too slow thinking comes from. Frost said himself that a 4.7 guy is definitely capable of running this offense; i.e. Derron Thomas.

 

POB had a similar 40 time, and had 640 yards/13 TDs on the ground as a junior. As a senior he had 626 yards and 8 touchdowns. He even had a receiving td.

 

When Lee had his concussion that wasn’t a concussion but was a concussion, POB was able to get 41 yards on the ground, with 14-yard and 12-yard gains. Unfortunately, our line had decided to turn from leaky faucet to a busted dam allowing seven sacks. SEVEN!!! That negated his rushing yardage.

 

I know when I saw O’Brien running with intent, he was able to get decent chunks.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Edison's Enemy said:

I guess I don’t get where the POB is too slow thinking comes from. Frost said himself that a 4.7 guy is definitely capable of running this offense; i.e. Derron Thomas.

 

POB had a similar 40 time, and had 640 yards/13 TDs on the ground as a junior. As a senior he had 626 yards and 8 touchdowns. He even had a receiving td.

 

When Lee had his concussion that wasn’t a concussion but was a concussion, POB was able to get 41 yards on the ground, with 14-yard and 12-yard gains. Unfortunately, our line had decided to turn from leaky faucet to a busted dam allowing seven sacks. SEVEN!!! That negated his rushing yardage.

 

I know when I saw O’Brien running with intent, he was able to get decent chunks.

 

 

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Agreed.  POB is not an "athlete" playing QB.  He is a QB playing QB. He is athletic enough to get yards with his feet.  He showed that in HS and his limited opportunities at NU.  As you mentioned, sacks tend to hurt the overall numbers.  Better OL play all the QB's will look much improved.  However, I think what will prove to be the sticking points in Frost's O will be the guy who can execute.  Make the reads and the throughs.  Execute the correct RPO options.  Execute the proper reads on the option etc....Not the guy who simply "runs the best".  Gone are the days of a one trick pony QB who can only throw or run.....

 

I agree with all the above as it relates to simply wanting the best QB for the system to get the starting job. Looking at UCF last year and NU the previous few, our QB's will get beat up. I'd encourage them all to stay.  However if some choose to leave (other positions as well) I wish them the best of luck.

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10 hours ago, Enhance said:

I think three things are largely playing against POB in the fan base right now: his perceived lack of fit in the offense, not taking part in interviews this week (for whatever the reason) and memories of the rumors that he rubbed teammates the wrong way early in his career.

 

That's a far cry from hoping he fails. I sincerely hope he's bought in and is playing his butt off for that starting spot, and I hope that's what he continues to do his entire career here.

 

I've got some juicy goss that fits with this narrative.... I have a sibling at UNL, who said the first time they "met" POB (met in quotes because when he sat down at the table of 2-3 people he wouldn't acknowledge said sibling) he referred to himself multiple times as "The Savior of Nebraska Football" before even going through a season.... 

 

I also heard a rumor that Uncle Rico is his life coach. I know the first rumor to be true, the second I am 50/50 on

 

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35 minutes ago, LaFlamaBlanca said:

 

I've got some juicy goss that fits with this narrative.... I have a sibling at UNL, who said the first time they "met" POB (met in quotes because when he sat down at the table of 2-3 people he wouldn't acknowledge said sibling) he referred to himself multiple times as "The Savior of Nebraska Football" before even going through a season.... 

 

I also heard a rumor that Uncle Rico is his life coach. I know the first rumor to be true, the second I am 50/50 on

 

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So, he's studying under Harrison Beck? 

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I don't hope POB fails, but he needs to transfer.  He will not get a chance to start during his career here.  He's a good player, just doesn't fit the offense AS WELL as Martinez or Gebbia.  I personally think Martinez gets the reins and starts all 4 years.  He fits the offense the best and Scott has already proven he will start true freshman.  And it's his prized recruit.  

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The QB situation is going to suck a lot of the oxygen out of the room for the foreseeable future.  We could easily have a situation where Gebbia wins the job this year and then gets beat out by both Martinez and Vedral the following year. 

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26 minutes ago, Blackshirts007 said:

I don't hope POB fails, but he needs to transfer.  He will not get a chance to start during his career here.  He's a good player, just doesn't fit the offense AS WELL as Martinez or Gebbia.  I personally think Martinez gets the reins and starts all 4 years.  He fits the offense the best and Scott has already proven he will start true freshman.  And it's his prized recruit.  

 

I sort of agree with this. Not necessarily that it will be Martinez as I think Frost will start whoever he feels is best but I like the idea of it being a freshman. Expectations are tempered for this season anyway, so why not get the seemingly eventual guy a whole lot more experience. But since we can assume one guy at QB likely won't be able to take all the snaps for a full season in this system, hopefully he finds a way to keep at least 3 of them happy enough to stick around. Guessing we will see at least 3 take snaps at QB this year. Sure beats the hell out of barely having one guy.

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Memba the days when we only had a clear starter and a "dear god I hope we don't need him" back up QB to talk about? I memba!

 

Now we talk about the 3, 4, 5 deep... #blessed

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9 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

The QB situation is going to suck a lot of the oxygen out of the room for the foreseeable future.  We could easily have a situation where Gebbia wins the job this year and then gets beat out by both Martinez and Vedral the following year. 

I predict the starter for game 1 is not the starter for more than 1/2 of the season.

 

POB should talk to Matt Turman. Wasn't he 10th or 11th on the depth chart? Then transfers and injuries piled up and he is starting for the #1 team in the nation against a top 20 team on the road.

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