BigRedBuster Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I will say this. I think it's the right decision to NOT carry out the attack. I have the feeling that Corporal Bone Spurs was chomping at the bit to use his big bad toys and show the world how tough he is and people around him were screaming at him to not do it. He finally listened to them. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: I will say this. I think it's the right decision to NOT carry out the attack. I have the feeling that Corporal Bone Spurs was chomping at the bit to use his big bad toys and show the world how tough he is and people around him were screaming at him to not do it. He finally listened to them. I get the opposite impression. I think Trump desperately wants to avoid engagement with Iran because he's got the Tucker Carlson's and Sean Hannity's of the world telling him it's not what his base wants. But he's appointed hawks like Bolton and Pompeo who desperately want the opposite. People like Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham also probably think it's the right thing to do. So they loop him in as little as possible so they can be at the driver's seat. At the last moment Trump realizes what's going on, asks questions that any competent commander-in-chief would've asked long beforehand and bailed with cold feet from something he doesn't even really want to do anyway. The overarching problem here is Trump does not have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said: I get the opposite impression. I think Trump desperately wants to avoid engagement with Iran because he's got the Tucker Carlson's and Sean Hannity's of the world telling him it's not what his base wants. But he's appointed hawks like Bolton and Pompeo who desperately want the opposite. People like Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham also probably think it's the right thing to do. So they loop him in as little as possible so they can be at the driver's seat. At the last moment Trump realizes what's going on, asks questions that any competent commander-in-chief would've asked long beforehand and bailed with cold feet from something he doesn't even really want to do anyway. The overarching problem here is Trump does not have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. Well, your last statement has been proven time and time again. I think my scenario is more likely after seeing his reaction to reporters questions the other day. That reaction wasn't of someone who doesn't want to engage Iran and was needing to be talked into it. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Danny Bateman said: I get the opposite impression. I think Trump desperately wants to avoid engagement with Iran because he's got the Tucker Carlson's and Sean Hannity's of the world telling him it's not what his base wants. But he's appointed hawks like Bolton and Pompeo who desperately want the opposite. People like Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham also probably think it's the right thing to do. So they loop him in as little as possible so they can be at the driver's seat. At the last moment Trump realizes what's going on, asks questions that any competent commander-in-chief would've asked long beforehand and bailed with cold feet from something he doesn't even really want to do anyway. The overarching problem here is Trump does not have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. Trump's issue is that he doesn't have core issues that drive him in many areas. Thus he is easily persuaded. He wants to present himself as the great negotiator but he is out of his element in the global world of politics and international military issues. So, he has hawks on one side - why he appointed them to important posts when he states he is opposed to international conflict just shows the inconsistency at his core. Then he has the voters on the other side who believed his no new war talk in 2016. He can't afford to lose them - if he does - he loses the election in 2020. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 This guy can not do anything without totally making stuff up. Link to comment
commando Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: This guy can not do anything without totally making stuff up. like the iranians shot down the drone on monday? and the term is locked and loaded as far as i know. and shouldn't it be sites rather than sights? 1 Link to comment
jsneb83 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, commando said: like the iranians shot down the drone on monday? and the term is locked and loaded as far as i know. and shouldn't it be sites rather than sights? FYI, don't Google "c$%ked and loaded" 3 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Trump supporters are insane. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 If you remember 2004, there was plenty of controversy over the justification for invading Iraq, the "mission accomplished" photo op, and the increasingly murky exit strategy, crafted by the same think tank conservatives who have always had their eye on Tehran. But George W. Bush held the middle ground because most people believe that as long as you have American boots on the ground in a foreign war, it's a bad look to change leaders. I think that's what the Trump team is angling for. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: If you remember 2004, there was plenty of controversy over the justification for invading Iraq, the "mission accomplished" photo op, and the increasingly murky exit strategy, crafted by the same think tank conservatives who have always had their eye on Tehran. But George W. Bush held the middle ground because most people believe that as long as you have American boots on the ground in a foreign war, it's a bad look to change leaders. I think that's what the Trump team is angling for. Not Bush and especially not Trump are they comparable to FDR. It made sense not to change leaders during WW2 and FDR proved to be the leader that was needed. Bush and Trump are well out of that league. 1 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Not Bush and especially not Trump are they comparable to FDR. It made sense not to change leaders during WW2 and FDR proved to be the leader that was needed. Bush and Trump are well out of that league. Hmm just kinda curious, you said the other day you would never vote for Bernie because of his policies. But in this post you claim FDR was a great leader. FDR was a far left democratic socialist whos policies were considered socialism and fought against by the same types of people who fight against Bernie. Term limits had to be set because the only democratic socialist president kept getting elected. Just something to think about. 3 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Oh boy. This should make every military member feel great. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Oh boy. This should make every military member feel great. What is the emoji for screaming? Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, NM11046 said: What is the emoji for screaming? this should work. Link to comment
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