Guy Chamberlin Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/24/2019 at 12:33 PM, TGHusker said: Not Bush and especially not Trump are they comparable to FDR. It made sense not to change leaders during WW2 and FDR proved to be the leader that was needed. Bush and Trump are well out of that league. The most troubling part is that FDR could make a case that America was fighting for freedom and democracy. It united us in purpose and sacrifice. It went downhill after that. Young Americans were asked to die for causes having little to do with freedom and democracy, or America's safety. But every President since Roosevelt would call upon that vintage sense of American nobility to sell wars with almost no moral footing. It works because we like to think of ourselves as heroes. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: The most troubling part is that FDR could make a case that America was fighting for freedom and democracy. It united us in purpose and sacrifice. It went downhill after that. Young Americans were asked to die for causes having little to do with freedom and democracy, or America's safety. But every President since Roosevelt would call upon that vintage sense of American nobility to sell wars with almost no moral footing. It works because we like to think of ourselves as heroes. And because the MIC controls much of govt since WW2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Welp. Looks like it took a little longer, but here we are. How many American kids need to die in Iran for Trump to get reelected? 4 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 If only this could be solved with money. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Maybe it will rile up a few GOP senators to vote to convict Trump in the impeachment trial....... nah not going to happen. GOP will be all in. They have become the party of war. 1 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Maybe it will rile up a few GOP senators to vote to convict Trump in the impeachment trial....... nah not going to happen. GOP will be all in. They have become the party of war. Just war? That's selling them short. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, teachercd said: If only this could be solved with money. In a way, that will be what is tried. How many billions will we spend on this? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: In a way, that will be what is tried. How many billions will we spend on this? I would imagine any number we even take a guess at will not be close to the final amount. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, teachercd said: I would imagine any number we even take a guess at will not be close to the final amount. Is that worth killing the bad guy? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Nebfanatic said: Is that worth killing the bad guy? Probably depends on your point of view. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, teachercd said: Probably depends on your point of view. Obviously, but I'm asking about your point of view. Its kill the bad guy at any cost right? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Obviously, but I'm asking about your point of view. Its kill the bad guy at any cost right? Any financial cost? Yeah. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, teachercd said: Any financial cost? Yeah. Well the cost won't just be financial. The financial cost will be significant,the human cost will likely be worse. Still worth it? At what point is it not worth it to you? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Well the cost won't just be financial. The financial cost will be significant,the human cost will likely be worse. Still worth it? At what point is it not worth it to you? It is always worth it to the right thing. I think we all agree with that. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, teachercd said: It is always worth it to the right thing. I think we all agree with that. So you feel ok offering up hundreds of thousands of innocent lives to take one life. Got it Link to comment
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