NUinID Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, brophog said: I'm definitely intrigued by Mazour. I agree, don't know if he's a bulk carry type of guy, but seems in his limited exposure to get a lot out of every touch. I'd like to see him get some opportunity early season and just see where it goes from there. You can't be afraid to run someone just because they were a walk on out of some small town in Nebraska. If he is good enough to play and contribute let him play. Wisconsin is never afraid to play these walk on guys. They had a guy last year, Garrett Groshek playing RB for them with a similar pedigree as Mazour. Walk on played QB in HS just a good athlete that ended up getting 61 carries for about 300 yards last year. 2 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Sam McKewon commented on his Pick 6 Podcast that Ozigbo could be better in this offense because he needs space and room to get his body going. He does not excel in yards 0-5, but once he gets up to speed, he does pretty good in the 2nd level of the defense. Ozigbo had 1 carry over 20 yards last year (28). If someone doesn't consider him a "big back", then what does he bring to the table that another back isn't. I think that's some of the mental gymnastics we all do when we like a guy. I'm not a fan of Wilbon or Ozigbo. They're replacement level backs. 2 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, brophog said: Ozigbo had 1 carry over 20 yards last year (28). If someone doesn't consider him a "big back", then what does he bring to the table that another back isn't. I think that's some of the mental gymnastics we all do when we like a guy. I'm not a fan of Wilbon or Ozigbo. They're replacement level backs. Well said. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, NUinID said: You can't be afraid to run someone just because they were a walk on out of some small town in Nebraska. If he is good enough to play and contribute let him play. Wisconsin is never afraid to play these walk on guys. They had a guy last year, Garrett Groshek playing RB for them with a similar pedigree as Mazour. Walk on played QB in HS just a good athlete that ended up getting 61 carries for about 300 yards last year. We have a head coach now that thinks that way. One of the big takeaways of his success the last two years is that he gave guys an opportunity and on the flip side if a guy didn't perform then he was replaced. Quote Link to comment
Roger Dorn Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, brophog said: Ozigbo had 1 carry over 20 yards last year (28). If someone doesn't consider him a "big back", then what does he bring to the table that another back isn't. I think that's some of the mental gymnastics we all do when we like a guy. I'm not a fan of Wilbon or Ozigbo. They're replacement level backs. I think one of the things that helps Ozigbo is that he is a pretty good pass catcher out of the backfield. I think he could be a good red zone option for us with his size and ability to catch. Quote Link to comment
Vince R. Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 If you're putting Jaylin ahead of Devine, it's because you want that to happen. There is nothing that suggests that he is better or should be ahead of Devine. Jaylin looked bad in the spring game. He didn't move well and lacked explosion. A lot of the players did cut down this summer, so I'll wait and see. But from the glimpses, Jaylin appears to be average at best. There was a stretch of games last year where Devine was one of our best players. He has way more ability than what most fans give him. I never understood it. He could easily be a 1,300 yard back if we had an Oline worth a damn. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Vince R. said: If you're putting Jaylin ahead of Devine, it's because you want that to happen. There is nothing that suggests that he is better or should be ahead of Devine. Jaylin looked bad in the spring game. He didn't move well and lacked explosion. A lot of the players did cut down this summer, so I'll wait and see. But from the glimpses, Jaylin appears to be average at best. There was a stretch of games last year where Devine was one of our best players. He has way more ability than what most fans give him. I never understood it. He could easily be a 1,300 yard back if we had an Oline worth a damn. Bradley gets treated differently because he hasn't had as many opportunities. It's benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, I don't know if it's anything more than that. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Roger Dorn said: I think one of the things that helps Ozigbo is that he is a pretty good pass catcher out of the backfield. He is, but I think that's one of the most overrated "skills" in football. It's just not that hard to teach. Most passes to a back are uncovered and easy for them to see. Nebraska used to be criticized for not throwing to their backs when draft time came, and then we'd put backs into west coast offenses in the NFL and they'd thrive as pass catchers. Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 15 hours ago, The Dude said: He was one of those guys who was quite unimpressive but inexplicably managed to impress a lot of people. Count me as one that thought he was going to be good. I thought he had good running skills but not having the football player mentality (think Andy Janovich) really held him back. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 The last mention of Wilbon was 23 posts ago Is the thread officially derailed? 6 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, huKSer said: The last mention of Wilbon was 23 posts ago Is the thread officially derailed? You can take almost everything I've said about Ozigbo and substitute Wilbon. 1 Quote Link to comment
Vince R. Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, huKSer said: The last mention of Wilbon was 23 posts ago Is the thread officially derailed? Wilbon always seemed to run tentative. There were times where I'd think, "why doesn't he just go!" Sometimes it looks like he's tight roping in the middle of the field as well. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 @Vince R. What killed Wilbon was that Riley & co had him overthinking everything. He lost his natural instincts as a runner that he had coming out of high school. And he didn't get many chances to run because Riley cared less about running the ball than he did about pass protection (which Bryant did fairly well, hence why Riley favored him so much). "Sometimes I just think too much and just try to do too much," he said. "Some games, I’d get one play and they’d take me right back out. I was like, ‘I’ve got to get a rhythm.’ That’s what they had me doing, and really, since my snaps were so limited, I really pressured myself. I was harder on myself because I was trying to be perfect every time I’m in, because I don’t know how many times I’m going to be in." https://247sports.com/Bolt/Mikale-Wilbon-is-making-a-push-for-playing-time-behind-new-attitude--51946460/ 3 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Toe said: @Vince R. What killed Wilbon was that Riley & co had him overthinking everything. He lost his natural instincts as a runner that he had coming out of high school. And he didn't get many chances to run because Riley cared less about running the ball than he did about pass protection (which Bryant did fairly well, hence why Riley favored him so much). "Sometimes I just think too much and just try to do too much," he said. "Some games, I’d get one play and they’d take me right back out. I was like, ‘I’ve got to get a rhythm.’ That’s what they had me doing, and really, since my snaps were so limited, I really pressured myself. I was harder on myself because I was trying to be perfect every time I’m in, because I don’t know how many times I’m going to be in." https://247sports.com/Bolt/Mikale-Wilbon-is-making-a-push-for-playing-time-behind-new-attitude--51946460/ Yeah, I could definitely see this being the case. Not only with the subbing in and out but also just not being able to use his natural ability as much. I think a different offense that let's him play in space more would be much better for him. That's the kind of offense he was recruited to play in. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, 4skers89 said: Count me as one that thought he was going to be good. I thought he had good running skills but not having the football player mentality (think Andy Janovich) really held him back. I thought he ran like a girl. Quote Link to comment
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