Moiraine Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, GBRFAN said: and i wish you would move on...... khaake is 100% on topic. You just disagree with his/her point of view. 5 Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 People don't want to think about the atrocities that have happened in the past. I get that. People don't like war... Completely understandable. I can't however think of a better venue to honor those who sacrificed all. Everyone should HAVE to see it... Have to remember it. Our peaceful everyday lives weren't free. Those men paid for them for us. I think every citizen should be reminded occasionally. 4 Quote Link to comment
Husker from Kansas Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, khaake said: Yes, the stadium was originally named to honor Nebraskans who fought in the Civil War, the Spanish-Americans wars, and World War One, but perhaps the theme is growing a little old. In any case, I wish UNL would not deliberately inject more militarism into football games. I struggle to understand how honoring the heroes of our country is growing old. You have the right to your opinion just like I have the right to mine. I just think it’s always appropriate to remember and honor the people who made sure we have that right. 5 Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I always thank the OG soldiers who faught in the revolutionary war. I think about those guys while they play the national anthem. I think people always bring up WW11 or Vietnam but literally without the minutemen there would not be freedom or football. There would only be soccer. The Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: I always thank the OG soldiers who faught in the revolutionary war. I think about those guys while they play the national anthem. I think people always bring up WW11 or Vietnam but literally without the minutemen there would not be freedom or football. There would only be soccer. The Just a thought experiment, but what would have happened if the colonies did not revolt, if the United States was never anything but a British colony? Would we be free? Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Moiraine said: khaake is 100% on topic. You just disagree with his/her point of view. I agree with your statement - I just think enough is enough "khaake" has made their point Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I think it's a cool gesture if you just take it for what it is. Maybe there's some evil conspiracy behind it. Probably not though. 3 Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: I think it's a cool gesture if you just take it for what it is. Maybe there's some evil conspiracy behind it. Probably not though. Yes, it's a nice gesture, but when added to an already large list, it is just too much. Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, khaake said: Just a thought experiment, but what would have happened if the colonies did not revolt, if the United States was never anything but a British colony? Would we be free? Doubt it... or it would have taken a lot longer. India gained their independence in 1947!!. France probably wouldn't be free because they jumped on the revolution train we started (yes I know they weren't under British rule). I think the Monarchy changed once all these other countries gained their independence. Capitalism and democracy changed the game. 1 Quote Link to comment
Oade Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, khaake said: Yes, it's a nice gesture, but when added to an already large list, it is just too much. Yep, there are just too many nice gestures in the world. God forbid someone should have to stop eating nachos for a minute or pause from drinking a beer on a cfb Saturday. 3 Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: Doubt it... or it would have taken a lot longer. India gained their independence in 1947!!. France probably wouldn't be free because they jumped on the revolution train we started (yes I know they weren't under British rule). I think the Monarchy changed once all these other countries gained their independence. Capitalism and democracy changed the game. I agree it would have taken a lot longer, but I do think it would have happened. Democracy was a concept whose time had come. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: Doubt it... or it would have taken a lot longer. India gained their independence in 1947!!. France probably wouldn't be free because they jumped on the revolution train we started (yes I know they weren't under British rule). I think the Monarchy changed once all these other countries gained their independence. Capitalism and democracy changed the game. Oh man...could you imagine how much more lame the PR forums would be if we were still a British colony? 1 Quote Link to comment
khaake Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Oade said: Yep, there are just too many nice gestures in the world. God forbid someone should have to stop eating nachos for a minute or pause from drinking a beer on a cfb Saturday. Again, the problem as I see it is that is this isn't in isolation. There are multiple events throughout the game, on the network, etc., every week. It's just too much, and a strange pairing. Let the game be the game. Quote Link to comment
Oade Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, khaake said: Again, the problem as I see it is that is this isn't in isolation. There are multiple events throughout the game, on the network, etc., every week. It's just too much, and a strange pairing. Let the game be the game. You could make the same argument about literally everything if you wanted. To single out and get hung up on honoring the Services is mind boggling to me. There are too many TV screens in the stadium - it's a nice thing for the fans in attendance though. There are too many seats, why do we need 90k seats? Why did we spend all that time and money on stadium expansion, it's not like it helped the team directly. Why are there so many concession options, the game will still be the game if we all don't get a slice of pizza. None of that is really an issue or too much, unless you choose to let it be. Quote Link to comment
Popular Post In the Deed the Glory Posted August 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, khaake said: Again, the problem as I see it is that is this isn't in isolation. There are multiple events throughout the game, on the network, etc., every week. It's just too much, and a strange pairing. Let the game be the game. So your problem is that you believe that, somehow, it is possible to talk about Veterans and the sacrifice those that didn't survive made TOO OFTEN? I just can't get behind that. Nothing in this world is guaranteed, and freedom damn sure didn't come free. I am a pretty open minded guy, and listen to a lot of opinions with intention of understanding their point of view. I am not a war monger, I don't want us in all of these conflicts mostly for the financial reasons. However, many of these "empty seats" are in response to recent soldiers not having remains recovered. Whose families are still mourning. If we can help comfort them, what kind of person wouldn't want to. I also cannot understand the thought that if we just let evil continue in the world that it won't eventually become a Nazi-like state that will try to invade the world and push its evil agenda on innocent people. However, many of my best friends, relatives, and co-workers have risked and some given their lives to make sure you have the right to choose to act however you want. They will say that to you as you refuse to honor their fallen brothers. It is a selfless act, maybe the greatest, to risk one's life to protect another's. When someone is willing to do that, no matter the motivation of their superiors, they should be commended for it. The vast majority of Americans agree with the point of view that I am describing. I really hope we are not becoming the nation that doesn't support their military and allows it to dwindle and falter. If that does happen, we'd better be ready to hand our freedom's over to the evil people that would take them away. That is the fear, that is what has happened throughout history. Every great power to fall allowed themselves to be too comfortable and didn't adequately protect their way of life. From Egypt to Rome and beyond, it happened over and over. If it takes reminding people of the sacrifice it takes during large gatherings to stop that from becoming our future, then let's do it as often as possible. I like being free, and I owe the freedom I love to those that risked everything for me to have it. 13 Quote Link to comment
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