Thanks_Tom RR Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Atbone95 said: Alright, party pooper, I'll be more specific. SPH said we need to recruit kids who can compete to start Day 1. The Huskers have had one true freshman ever start Day 1 - Tyler Moore, and he was a total wuss who transferred. Better? Does it count that Jaimes started 9 games as a true freshman last year and was arguably one of the best on the field? 3 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 For the record, I didn't say they HAD to start. I said compete to start. Wisconsin (who many say we are trying to be like) had 3 RS Freshmen on their 2 deep last year. That likely wasn't out of desperation. It was because they were ready to play. Lately, freshmen starting for Nebraska on the OL, has been due more because of lack of depth and we needed a body. Basically we need good OL that can actually push the players that are on the team. It doesn't need to be all 5 freshmen starting. I would just like to see 1-2 big time OL be able to come in and actually compete day 1. Even if they still redshirt in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: For the record, I didn't say they HAD to start. I said compete to start. Wisconsin (who many say we are trying to be like) had 3 RS Freshmen on their 2 deep last year. That likely wasn't out of desperation. It was because they were ready to play. Lately, freshmen starting for Nebraska on the OL, has been due more because of lack of depth and we needed a body. Basically we need good OL that can actually push the players that are on the team. It doesn't need to be all 5 freshmen starting. I would just like to see 1-2 big time OL be able to come in and actually compete day 1. Even if they still redshirt in the end. It is also because when you have 17 offensive linemen on the team and 9 of them are freshmen, you literally have to have some freshmen in the two-deep. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mavric said: It is also because when you have 17 offensive linemen on the team and 9 of them are freshmen, you literally have to have some freshmen in the two-deep. Fine. You win. Quote Link to comment
Atbone95 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Thanks_Tom RR said: Does it count that Jaimes started 9 games as a true freshman last year and was arguably one of the best on the field? oh jesus... alright, I will be very clear. Only. One. Player. Ever. Has. Ever. Started. A. Season. Opener. At. OL. For. Nebraska. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, Atbone95 said: oh jesus... alright, I will be very clear. Only. One. Player. Ever. Has. Ever. Started. A. Season. Opener. At. OL. For. Nebraska. Okay. Fair enough. Can we agree we need to get OL here that can at least PUSH for playing time as freshmen? They don't have to start. Just be good enough to play? Or are we only going for 2-3 year developmental players? 3 Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, StPaulHusker said: Okay. Fair enough. Can we agree we need to get OL here that can at least PUSH for playing time as freshmen? They don't have to start. Just be good enough to play? Or are we only going for 2-3 year developmental players? The bold is how it works 99.9% of the time and this in not saying that they are recruiting developmental players - it's just that 18 year old lineman need lots of development. Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Atbone95 said: oh jesus... alright, I will be very clear. Only. One. Player. Ever. Has. Ever. Started. A. Season. Opener. At. OL. For. Nebraska. We've only had one lineman ever start a season opener?? Do we just use extra tight ends on the first series?? 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, GBRFAN said: The bold is how it works 99.9% of the time and this in not saying that they are recruiting developmental players - it's just that 18 year old lineman need lots of development. There are a lot of true and redshirt freshmen playing and starting in P5 games. I think 99.9% was the way it used to be. I don’t believe it’s that high of a percentage anymore 1 Quote Link to comment
swmohusker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: There are a lot of true and redshirt freshmen playing and starting in P5 games. I think 99.9% was the way it used to be. I don’t believe it’s that high of a percentage anymore Not sure about how many True Freshmen are playing. Nicholas Petit Frere and Jackson Carman are two of the top OL in last class and they are not starting. Those guy are about as ready as any 18 year old can get, but they are playing at OSU and Clemson so competition is quite a bit higher. I could see more RSFr playing but that is not bringing guys to play right away. I think the guys we are bringing in could look to make an impact after a RS year. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, swmohusker said: Not sure about how many True Freshmen are playing. Nicholas Petit Frere and Jackson Carman are two of the top OL in last class and they are not starting. Those guy are about as ready as any 18 year old can get, but they are playing at OSU and Clemson so competition is quite a bit higher. I could see more RSFr playing but that is not bringing guys to play right away. I think the guys we are bringing in could look to make an impact after a RS year. I think if you look at the number of true sophomores that are starting or 2nd string, there are a lot. Which means they played as true freshmen. I'm just looking for us to not always bring in "projects." Our OL is middle of the pack at best and if we don't get players in that can push them, I don't think they will get much better. Just need new players that will push the older ones early. 1 Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: I think if you look at the number of true sophomores that are starting or 2nd string, there are a lot. Which means they played as true freshmen. I'm just looking for us to not always bring in "projects." Our OL is middle of the pack at best and if we don't get players in that can push them, I don't think they will get much better. Just need new players that will push the older ones early. You are not understanding the "Culture" it is just the opposite the older ones are the ones that push the younger ones to climb up to their level so that they are studs for their Jr/Sr years. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, GBRFAN said: You are not understanding the "Culture" it is just the opposite the older ones are the ones that push the younger ones to climb up to their level so that they are studs for their Jr/Sr years. When the older ones are actually good, that works. The case of Nebraska is different right now 1 Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, StPaulHusker said: When the older ones are actually good, that works. The case of Nebraska is different right now Patience young grasshopper Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Just now, GBRFAN said: Patience young grasshopper Patience for what? The starting 5 OL as a unit are not very good. They are average at best. And the OL coach says they can only rely on ONE backup. This isn't just me talking. The radio guys are saying the same thing. Where are the other guys to step up? Quote Link to comment
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