Mavric Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I noted this after our first two games. We are moving the ball really well, especially compared to the amount of points we're scoring. Part of that - probably most of it - is we've killed ourselves with penalties and turnovers. And, while those don't necessarily go away on their own, even a a basic regression to the mean would mean at least another touchdown per game. Seven more points per game would move us up 40 spots in the scoring offense rankings. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 We're tragically lower than everyone else averaging within 50 yards of us in offense. Yikes. Knew that number had to be bad but it's different to actually see it as a statistic. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Where do we rank in time of possession? Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Since we are talking yards per point, I thought I'd inform you all that... If we were playing Fantasy Football with Martinez as our QB... He would have 99 fantasy points, with an average of 24.75 a game (missed 1 games) This would make him the 14th best QB in the NFL for total points and the 8th best by average points per game. Just some food for thought for you guys. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This partly explains our win loss record. But, at the same time, it gives me encouragement. We are able to move the ball in just about every game we've played. Drives end because of turnovers and more so the last few, penalties. Those are fixable problems. Being able to move the ball tells me we have an offensive system and players that can accomplish it. Fix the problems and our points per game go up significantly. Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think red zone efficiency is also important. Some teams can move well in the middle of the field, but don't do well with a short field. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thanks_Tom RR Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Imo, there are five issues that have lead to lots of yards with less points than expected: 1. Offensive penalties: This is a no brainer that penalties kill drives. 2. Weak 3rd and short conversion: I don't know the exact number of 3rd & 1 or 3rd & 2 that Nebraska has failed to convert, but it's a lot. 3-5. Net punting resulting from ST penalities, poor punting average, and poor punt coverage. These combined lead to long fields for Nebraska (I think the average is starting somewhere around the 20-25 yard line) which means always having to run the length of the field to score. Constant long drives is not realistic. Watching Nebraska's offense makes me want to call it a 'boom-or-bust' offense. Partially because you see them get a big run or pass, and if it's not a house call, the drive sputters. This results in yardage without points. However, I think a lot of the other factors I listed have such a big impact, I hesitate to call it a true 'boom-or-bust' offense. Quote Link to comment
spencer7508 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't think our offence or defence is built for the high speed offence ran at ucf or Oregon YET. With the big play makers we have I don't think it's completely necessary to go as fast as we can. The time of possession this year is completely lopsided and our defense is not built to be on the field 40/60 minutes of the game. I think our offense is definitely capable of out playing opponents defenses but it seems like we need to get our defense some rest. And on the offense, maybe it's just me but it seems like a lot of the holding calls are on the tail end of the drives. O line getting tired and starting to hold on to not get beat Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Thanks_Tom RR said: Imo, there are five issues that have lead to lots of yards with less points than expected: 1. Offensive penalties: This is a no brainer that it penalties kill drives. 2. Weak 3rd and short conversion: I don't know the exact number of 3rd & 1 or 3rd & 2 that Nebraska has failed to convert, but it's a lot. 3-5. Net punting resulting from ST penalities, poor punting average, and poor punt coverage. These combined lead to long fields for Nebraska (I think the average is starting somewhere around the 20-25 yard line) which means always having to run the length of the field to score. Constant long drives is not realistic. Watching Nebraska's offense makes me want to call it a 'boom-or-bust' offense. Partially because you see them get a big run or pass, and if it's not a house call, the drive sputters. This results in yardage without points. However, I think a lot of the other factors I listed have such a big impact, I hesitate to call it a true 'boom-or-bust' offense. The bolded is what I've been thinking through the first five games as well. It's the reason I was wondering where we rank in terms of time of possession. A lot of your issues with the offense are what has caused the defense to look so bad especially 3-5. Our punting and punt coverage has been bad. Our offense starts out around the 20-25 while the opposing teams offense has a considerable shorter field. Our offense doesn't seem to ever have the ball very long. Then, we give up the ball for a short field to a tired defense. I guess a boom or bust offense is okay as long as we're getting more boom. Thus far, we haven't gotten enough boom. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I can see this being a boom or bust type offense but that is not what has been limiting our points relative to the yards we’ve gained. IMO we really aren’t playing that fast and TOP is down due to the same reasons our points are. Turnovers Penalties, particularly ill timed drive killing penalties and those that put us in 3rd and long situations. Failure to convert 3rd and 4th downs, long or short yardage Special teams giving us crap field position I know these issues have been pointed out, and rightly so. But they are not the indicators of a typical boom or bust offense. That would be playing fast and failing to convert 3rd downs. I’m guessing we’ll see plenty of that eventually but for right now what they really need to focus on is penalties, turnovers and winning field position. Those 3 will go a long way towards improving 3rd down efficiency and they will also stave off the negatives of a boom or bust offense. The other killer for our W-L record has been defensive penalties. These also seem to be skewed towards the ill timed drive sustaining type that will just kill you. Simply put, this team needs to start playing a lot more disciplined ball or even the BC game might be in question. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think we are the biggest outlier on the entire graph other than perhaps the team with > 50 pts that is in the middle of the pack in yards. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 8 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: This partly explains our win loss record. But, at the same time, it gives me encouragement. We are able to move the ball in just about every game we've played. Drives end because of turnovers and more so the last few, penalties. Those are fixable problems. Being able to move the ball tells me we have an offensive system and players that can accomplish it. Fix the problems and our points per game go up significantly. Pretty much where I'm at. Seems quite a bit different than other games we've lost over the last couple years where we are just getting totally out-played (except this year's Michigan game, of course). We've out-yarded our opponent in three games and were neck-and-neck with Wisconsin. Obviously the mistakes we make are too often huge ones but we're still doing a lot of things right. One of these game I think we'll just be piling up points. Hopefully more than just against B-C. 2 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm guessing it's already been posted somewhere (in the article I can't view?) but here are the rankings. Left column is 2018. 126 Nebraska 19.8 19.9 21.6 20.1 19.1 15.0 127 LA Monroe 20.0 19.0 20.3 18.1 20.8 13.5 128 Arkansas St 21.8 21.5 37.3 20.3 22.7 13.4 129 W Kentucky 23.1 19.3 19.1 19.1 24.5 15.9 130 Connecticut 25.1 23.3 23.4 31.0 21.8 17.8 1 Quote Link to comment
Gage County Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 hours ago, Thanks_Tom RR said: Imo, there are five issues that have lead to lots of yards with less points than expected: 1. Offensive penalties: This is a no brainer that it penalties kill drives. 2. Weak 3rd and short conversion: I don't know the exact number of 3rd & 1 or 3rd & 2 that Nebraska has failed to convert, but it's a lot. 3-5. Net punting resulting from ST penalities, poor punting average, and poor punt coverage. These combined lead to long fields for Nebraska (I think the average is starting somewhere around the 20-25 yard line) which means always having to run the length of the field to score. Constant long drives is not realistic. Watching Nebraska's offense makes me want to call it a 'boom-or-bust' offense. Partially because you see them get a big run or pass, and if it's not a house call, the drive sputters. This results in yardage without points. However, I think a lot of the other factors I listed have such a big impact, I hesitate to call it a true 'boom-or-bust' offense. 6. We have 7 total yards of punt returns, averaging .58 yards per return. We have to shorten the field, that'll put more big plays on the scoreboard. Quote Link to comment
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