Toe Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/11/16/les-miles-kansas-hiring-head-coach-contract 1 Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 That's a pretty great pickup for Kansas. Happy for them, actually. It's been a long walk in the desert for them these last 10 years. Hope Miles can drag them out of it. Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I don't know any ku fans so I'm not sure what kind of expectations they have for football but i have a hard time believing les miles is going to accomplish whatever they expect him to. If he doesn't hire a great oc and give him control of the offense there's no way they'll be able to keep up with anyone. I think miles just pulled a Riley and got his retirement fund secured. 1 Quote Link to comment
Husker from Kansas Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Most KU fans I know just want to be competitive and be in a bowl game more often than not. And they’d like to see the athletic department make an honest effort to treat football as a priority not just basketballs red headed stepchild 1 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, LumberJackSker said: I don't know any ku fans so I'm not sure what kind of expectations they have for football but i have a hard time believing les miles is going to accomplish whatever they expect him to. In the best of times it's only a bowl game. If you can average 5 wins a season at KU, you'd get the Ferentz treatment. At this point, it's practically any win. They've won one conference game on the road in about 10 years, no conference road games in that span, and have torn the goal posts down on 2/3 of their home wins. The current expectations are practically non-existent. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Husker from Kansas said: And they’d like to see the athletic department make an honest effort to treat football as a priority not just basketballs red headed stepchild It sounds like this is a big part of what got the deal done: Quote His courtship with Kansas was rooted in the coach’s close relationship with new Kansas athletic director Jeff Long. Miles and Long have a friendship that stretches back to their days at Michigan in the 1980s, and it is widely known that Long, while AD at Arkansas in 2012, extended a lucrative offer to Miles, then at LSU. Miles received an enhanced contract after Long’s pursuit, his final extension while in Baton Rouge. But yeah, for the immediate future it'll be interesting to see who he brings in as his OC. After that, it'll be interesting to see what kind of recruiting class he can put together. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 6 hours ago, brophog said: They've won one conference game on the road in about 10 years, no conference road games in that span 2 6 Quote Link to comment
Ulty Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Once Les Miles is active again, there will only be 5 current head coaches with a national championship on their resume, and one of them is at Kansas. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 7:01 PM, LumberJackSker said: I don't know any ku fans so I'm not sure what kind of expectations they have for football but i have a hard time believing les miles is going to accomplish whatever they expect him to. If he doesn't hire a great oc and give him control of the offense there's no way they'll be able to keep up with anyone. I think miles just pulled a Riley and got his retirement fund secured. If they expect him to win .333 of his games eventually then he might be fine. I don't think he's gonna make Kansas a winning program. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 22 hours ago, Landlord said: Typo, first should have said non-conference. But with KU, even typos are sometimes true! Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 They should've gone after someone like Willie Fritz. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I like the hire, at this point in time. If this were a Mike Riley situation....hiring an older coach to transition a successful program over the hump, I'd hate it. I don't for a minute think Les Miles' rather archaic style fits that kind of job. This is a builder's job, almost from the ground floor. For KU, it's almost easier to build that roster from scratch. They only had 28 scholarship players in the first spring of Beaty's tenure, and just finally hit 70 this fall. An FCS school has 63, for comparison. It's even worse than that because over half of Beaty's players were transfers. Their class sizes are totally screwed up and they lose a huge chunk of what little talent they have, to be replaced by the 1 commit they currently have. What KU needs in the immediate future is someone that can recruit and sell the program. They need significant facility and stadium upgrades to be even remotely competitive. That means someone has to pay for it. That's fans in the stands and boosters. A big name hire like Miles that knows his way around major college football is ideal for that job. They got him relatively cheap, too, at about 2.8 mil a year. When he's ready to retire in a few years and has elevated the program, then it's ready for a coach that wants to run a specific system that can then take them to that next level. Right now, KU mostly needs someone to make KU football interesting, and few are more interesting than the Mad Hatter. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I'm not a big Les Miles fan. Considering he was absolutely terrible at coming up with a competant offense at LSU I'm somewhat skeptical that he'll be able to compete is the offense-happy Big XII. However, if he can make some strides in recruiting and culture, they may at least be respectable. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 @Mavric The other thing is I'm always skeptical about how well big SEC guys will be able to recruit when they're not sitting in top-tier recruiting territory. Lawrence is obviously a whole different world than Baton Rouge. 1 Quote Link to comment
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