funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, teachercd said: Public schools have tons of money...what they do is spend it wrong. 6 asst superintendents in a district making 200 large each? What, why? Curriculum specialists in each building making 6 figures? Why not just offer that role to the department head with a stipend on 10K...You have like 6 departments in a school, you just save another 40k. Teachers leaving teaching to run and hide in the admin building with titles like "Head of PE Currc" . Nope...axe it. I would love more money, but it won't make me a better teacher, it will just make me enjoy looking at my bank account. Just like if I got more money for coaching it would not make me a better coach. The banning from stuff is sort of whatever, that really doesn't fall under the education part in my mind. If it is a money thing, that is lame...if it is an a$$h@!e thing, I am fine with it. The people running it are nuts. A lot of this is true. Especially in my district. But the reality is 1 admin making $150k equals maybe 4/5 new teachers with benefits. We could use much more than 20/25 new teachers to bring our class size average down.., 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, funhusker said: A lot of this is true. Especially in my district. But the reality is 1 admin making $150k equals maybe 4/5 new teachers with benefits. We could use much more than 20/25 new teachers to bring our class size average down.., Hey...those admins work hard and help out! HAHAHA Someone needs to be walking around with coffee all day and REFUSING to cover classes so that more subs need to be called. Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, teachercd said: Hey...those admins work hard and help out! HAHAHA No doubt. But their cost is overrated. Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, funhusker said: No doubt. But their cost is overrated. Oh man, amen! Totally overrated. Also, they forget what teaching is like. 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I’m not getting into the whole education discussion Because I’ve spent too long at the haffbrauhause. But, our public transportation in areas other than the east coast sucks. And, Americans gave no clue what they are missing. The trains in Europe were nice, but they also have a much high population density so it makes more sense economically and functionally than it does in the US. We're so much more spread out here than they are. Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, teachercd said: Oh man, amen! Totally overrated. Also, they forget what teaching is like. While I can agree, we apparently are using 2 different definitions of”overrated”. Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, funhusker said: While I can agree, we apparently are using 2 different definitions of”overrated”. Are you saying the complaints about their salary is overrated? I can see that. Heck I would gladly take their salary. Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, teachercd said: Are you saying the complaints about their salary is overrated? I can see that. Heck I would gladly take their salary. While overpaid, it doesn’t offset an efficient increase in teachers salary... Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, funhusker said: While overpaid, it doesn’t offset an efficient increase in teachers salary... I would hope not. Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, teachercd said: I would hope not. So you agree that overpaying admin isn’t a major cause of teacher shortage? seems the opposite of your post “way back when”... Link to comment
Landlord Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ZRod said: The trains in Europe were nice, but they also have a much high population density so it makes more sense economically and functionally than it does in the US. We're so much more spread out here than they are. West of the Mississippi that's true, but having high speed rail up and down the pacific coast would make a ton of sense, as well as all over in the eastern third of the country and just a few arteries to get out west. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ZRod said: The trains in Europe were nice, but they also have a much high population density so it makes more sense economically and functionally than it does in the US. We're so much more spread out here than they are. Sure...so, you’re not going to have routes going from Pittsburg KS to Mullen NE. but we can have routes from all the cities from nyc to LA. Meaning.... Philly pittsburg cleaveland toledo chicago....etc and add some smaller stops between. omaha, Lincoln, grand island, Kearney, Lexington, north Platte, Ogallala, Sterling, fort Morgan, Denver. that would be a great route. dallas, OKC, Witchita, KC, omaha. Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, funhusker said: So you agree that overpaying admin isn’t a major cause of teacher shortage? seems the opposite of your post “way back when”... I said it is a problem with education and where the money (that is already there) is spent. I don't think I have ever said one thing about a teacher shortage. Is there even a teacher shortage? Link to comment
funhusker Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, teachercd said: I said it is a problem with education and where the money (that is already there) is spent. I don't think I have ever said one thing about a teacher shortage. Is there even a teacher shortage? I can really only speak for industrial tech, aka “shop”, with a resounding ABSOF#%^INGLUTELY!!! Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, funhusker said: I can really only speak for industrial tech, aka “shop”, with a resounding ABSOF#%^INGLUTELY!!! Oh for sure, big time. It is also a shortage at a lot of schools, I mean the classes themselves. It is too bad because there is major value in that (way more than art and band...shhhh, don't tell anyone I said that). When do your electives starts for Ind tech? 10th grade? Do you get any girls in those classes? Link to comment
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