GSG Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 53 minutes ago, Swiv3D said: And the seating can be adjusted so that the capacity is 80k 1 Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 17 hours ago, Moiraine said: This still isn’t accurate from everything I’ve read. You might want to keep reading then. Even if you want to disagree outside the B10, it shouldn't be acceptable to not be top half of your own conference. Most B10 media guys have mentioned the same thing. We do have one of the best stadiums/atmospheres though. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: You might want to keep reading then. Even if you want to disagree outside the B10, it shouldn't be acceptable to not be top half of your own conference. Most B10 media guys have mentioned the same thing. We do have one of the best stadiums/atmospheres though. What you said was inaccurate. I never said anything about what I find acceptable. 1 Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Moiraine said: What you said was inaccurate. I never said anything about what I find acceptable. I wasn't aware that you traveled to all the facilities more than the media and Bill Moos. My apologies Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said: Gerry Dinardo said Iowa, tOSU, MSU, PSU, Mich have the best football facilities in the B1G. This was before Illinois, NW and Minny done upgrades for football. He said we are even with Wisconsin when it comes to football facilities. On a quick look, I can't find anything that makes Iowa's facilities better than ours. They may get a slight edge in "hang out space" but their second indoor facility is apparently away from the rest of the football facilities and, unless the underneath is significantly better - it looks to me like Memorial is significantly better than Kinnick. I wouldn't be surprised if OSU, PSU and Michigan have better facilities but I wonder how much of that is that they simply have the biggest capacity stadiums in the country. Michigan State's facilities aren't any newer than ours. And I would have the same take about their stadium as Kinnick. I don't see anything overall that makes them significantly better. Illinois and Northwestern have some upgrades but that doesn't mean they passed us. Similar comments as to Iowa but probably a nicer stadium. I don't see a significant difference, and I'm not sure they have two indoor practice facilities. Northwestern's new practice facility is next-level but their stadium doesn't hold a candle to Memorial. Minnesota's new stadium is really nice. And they've done some upgrades. But I don't see anything that's better than what we have. And only one indoor practice facility. 2 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: I wasn't aware that you traveled to all the facilities more than the media and Bill Moos. My apologies Remind me again what Bill Moos said. I seem to recall he said we’re around 8th in the Big Ten. a) That brings us once again (is this the 2nd or 3rd time we’ve had to do this?) to the fact you said nationally, not Big Ten. b) Moos is trying to convince people who matter that we need to upgrade our facilities. He’s not an unbiased expert. He has an agenda. But again, us being 8th in the Big Ten has nothing to do with your statement about being middle of the pack nationally being accurate or not. I don’t know why people have to keep explaining this to you. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: I wasn't aware that you traveled to all the facilities more than the media and Bill Moos. My apologies And Moos wouldn't have any reason to speak with a bit of hyperbole..... Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Unless NW built a new weightroom in their new indoor facility they are still behind some HS weight rooms I've been in. Their stadium is trash as well. Purdue still sucks, IU has ok facilities I haven't been in MSUs facilities their stadium is nothing special. I can't imagine Rutgers or Maryland having better facilities. Anyway... it doesn't matter how much you shine a turd, it's still a turd Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Remind me again what Bill Moos said. I seem to recall he said we’re around 8th in the Big Ten. a) That brings us once again (is this the 2nd or 3rd time we’ve had to do this?) to the fact you said nationally, not Big Ten. b) Moos is trying to convince people who matter that we need to upgrade our facilities. He’s not an unbiased expert. He has an agenda. But again, us being 8th in the Big Ten has nothing to do with your statement about being middle of the pack nationally being accurate or not. I don’t know why people have to keep explaining this to you. You are the only one that is 'trying to explain it to me'. 19 hours ago, BIG ERN said: I meant for P5 conferences, I'm not including Ball State or anything. For P5 we are slightly ahead of middle of the pack This still isn’t accurate from everything I’ve read. You are still saying we aren't middle of the pack for P5 conferences, which I disagree with. That doesn't mean I think we have crappy facilities, it just has to do with the timing of all the other schools building new ones a decade or two after ours 'were top tier'. It's time for our own upgrades. Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said: Unless NW built a new weightroom in their new indoor facility they are still behind some HS weight rooms I've been in. Their stadium is trash as well. Purdue still sucks, IU has ok facilities I haven't been in MSUs facilities their stadium is nothing special. I can't imagine Rutgers or Maryland having better facilities. Anyway... it doesn't matter how much you shine a turd, it's still a turd NW literally had the worst weight room I've ever seen, but their new one is going to be one of the best. The water helps... Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: You are the only one that is 'trying to explain it to me'. 19 hours ago, BIG ERN said: I meant for P5 conferences, I'm not including Ball State or anything. For P5 we are slightly ahead of middle of the pack This still isn’t accurate from everything I’ve read. You are still saying we aren't middle of the pack for P5 conferences, which I disagree with. That doesn't mean I think we have crappy facilities, it just has to do with the timing of all the other schools building new ones a decade or two after ours 'were top tier'. It's time for our own upgrades. Mavric tried to explain it as well. And when you clarified you meant P5 and I disagreed, you went back to Bill Moos again for some reason. If you have a quote from him comparing our facilities nationally or P5 to back up your argument, feel free to share it. Until then I assume you looped back to the Big Ten argument again based on his #8 comment, which leads me to believe you needed the explanation again. I even asked you to remind me what he said and you didn’t respond. And it bears repeating, Moos is not unbiased. He wants us to upgrade our facilities. He’s going to make it sound as urgent as possible without totally lying. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: This still isn’t accurate from everything I’ve read. I'd like to see where you are reading this. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mavric said: I'd like to see where you are reading this. He was quoting me. I was saying it wasn’t accurate we’re middle of the pack. Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, GSG said: For kicks Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, BIG ERN said: NW literally had the worst weight room I've ever seen, but their new one is going to be one of the best. The water helps... Yeah but all through winter and spring those windows will be fogged up and you wont be able to see the frozen shores of lake Michigan Quote Link to comment
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