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Was able to listen to most of this live. Stark makes a lot of very good points. The one I found most interesting was when he talked about the retreat Solich and staff took that lead to changes prior to 03 season that led to a 9-3 year after going 6-6. Having "suits" and people in position of power that in like minded with how things should be done with coaches makes a huge difference. I think we're beginning to see that come to fruition finally. Moos was a blessing for us. 

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2 minutes ago, wiuhusker said:

Was able to listen to most of this live. Stark makes a lot of very good points. The one I found most interesting was when he talked about the retreat Solich and staff took that lead to changes prior to 03 season that led to a 9-3 year after going 6-6. Having "suits" and people in position of power that in like minded with how things should be done with coaches makes a huge difference. I think we're beginning to see that come to fruition finally. Moos was a blessing for us. 

When Solich was fired, I was in support of the decision.  However, it's a big "what if" if he had been retained.  I know the 9-3 2003 season wasn't as good/great as the record shows, but looking back, I think it would have been interesting to see how the new staff could have done, if they were retained beyond that one year.

 

Turning to current day, it's great to have the alignment from Bounds to Moos to Frost.  The direction of the University, the Athletic Department, and the football program need to be in the same direction.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

When Solich was fired, I was in support of the decision.  However, it's a big "what if" if he had been retained.  I know the 9-3 2003 season wasn't as good/great as the record shows, but looking back, I think it would have been interesting to see how the new staff could have done, if they were retained beyond that one year.

 

Turning to current day, it's great to have the alignment from Bounds to Moos to Frost.  The direction of the University, the Athletic Department, and the football program need to be in the same direction.

I think it would've been more appropriate to get rid of Solich after the 6-6 year than it was the 9-3 season but that is small details. I think many would agree that even though this year was 4-8 and not what we at all had hoped for, it's plain as day that this thing is headed in the right direction? Does that lead to a National Title? Only time will tell. But this football program is going to do things the right way on and off the field and that's something I can support no matter the record. 

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Do you suppose that the decline under perlman ie hiring eichhorst was a simple failure in leadership?  I seem to see this everywhere, these priviliged white collar good ol boys who really shine in a back room ball room mixer, but have a completely dysfunctional moral compass, and undeveloped character.  Not to mention lack of real intelligence.  

 

Like with the whole Penn St. sexual abuse scandal.  Their instinct is to lie or cover up to "protect the institution" when in fact in order to really protect the institution you need transparency.  Call the cops immediately.  Sunshine cures the infection. 

 

Or the TENNESSEE Schiano fiasco.  What dipstick thought that was a good idea especially after the entire student body rebelled?  Really? common 22 yr olds have to correct their "leaders"?

 

Or the Maryland Durkin fiasco.  It took the team walking out and the Governor to finally get it through their thick noggins that this guy needs to go?  BTW kudos to those Maryland guys playing hard quality football as a team, even while being let down by their school (no coach)

 

OR NU with Eichorst... no need to say more.   

 

I mean over and over and over.  Is there a rich school on how to be a d-bag these guys secretly graduate from?

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7 hours ago, dvdcrr said:

Do you suppose that the decline under perlman ie hiring eichhorst was a simple failure in leadership?  I seem to see this everywhere, these priviliged white collar good ol boys who really shine in a back room ball room mixer, but have a completely dysfunctional moral compass, and undeveloped character.  Not to mention lack of real intelligence.  

 

Like with the whole Penn St. sexual abuse scandal.  Their instinct is to lie or cover up to "protect the institution" when in fact in order to really protect the institution you need transparency.  Call the cops immediately.  Sunshine cures the infection. 

 

Or the TENNESSEE Schiano fiasco.  What dipstick thought that was a good idea especially after the entire student body rebelled?  Really? common 22 yr olds have to correct their "leaders"?

 

Or the Maryland Durkin fiasco.  It took the team walking out and the Governor to finally get it through their thick noggins that this guy needs to go?  BTW kudos to those Maryland guys playing hard quality football as a team, even while being let down by their school (no coach)

 

OR NU with Eichorst... no need to say more.   

 

I mean over and over and over.  Is there a rich school on how to be a d-bag these guys secretly graduate from?

 

 

 

What are the similarities between our situation and those?

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1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

What are the similarities between our situation and those?

Well to be honest Osborne, Perlman, Green would have had a very hard time in today's culture keeping his job intact with some of the incidents that happened.   Would we have kept the beatings, robberies, rapes quite, fights in bars where cameras didn't exist, or would we have admitted them and kicked the player off? You tell me because Tom never wanted to lose a player because he always thought he could fix them.  O yes sir there are some similarities they just happened 20 years apart. 

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