RedDenver Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Top ten tweet of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment
OTHusker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, teachercd said: I coach form tackling...but I sure don't expect it in a game because I remember that the guy with the ball is trying too. During a game I just want my guy to get their guy to the ground. Which he didn’t do nor did he last season thats why he saw less playing time Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 hours ago, OTHusker said: Are you serious? What difference does this make if it is an outdoor or indoor drill? 3 Level Oklahoma is a block destruction and tackling drill teams use both indoors and outdoors- meant to teach - block destruction and tackling with a very small pursuit function Im very confident our coaches arent telling the kids to tackle high, dont use your arms or hands Blocks to get kids out of bounds is unsound on many levels- you CAN knock players out of bounds, tackle low and wrap up- this isnt a mutually exclusive thing. I hate seeing poor fundamental tackling- especially when our team does it so poorly and is celebrated. Thats just me- when Armstrong was throwing all of those closed eye YOLO bombs into double coverage- even if they were TDs- I wouldnt clap- because in the long term- those YOLO prayers were going to lose us a bunch of games. Dont encourage bad behaivior even if it by some miracle yields an odd positive result Dude, relax 1 1 Quote Link to comment
OTHusker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, CalhounHusker said: Long time lurker, noticed over the last week or so you have about 1 positive and 20-30 negatives to say. He does a great job shedding the block and forcing the ball carrier out of bounds. Also, there was no cut back, because if he would've cut, he would've been out of bounds. Thirdly, if you ever have done any real coaching or taken any coaching classes, you always reinforce negatives with a positive. You have no idea what happened after the play, and what was said by the coaches. Overall, it was a great play. I’m not coaching him up im commenting on an internet board and I’m negative on the way he tackled last year does anyone really think this kid is even in the 35th percentile for tackling in this league ? Commented on the video i saw in this thread which looked like more of the same from last year which wasn’t good I’ve coached over 25 years and attended dozens of clinics im not coaching him face to face Im commenting on a board to critique you the exact same way you did me if you knew anything about tackling or had coached or taken many tackling classes you would have known his tackling attempt was terrible 3 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, OTHusker said: I’m not coaching him up im commenting on an internet board and I’m negative on the way he tackled last year does anyone really think this kid is even in the 35th percentile for tackling in this league ? Commented on the video i saw in this thread which looked like more of the same from last year which wasn’t good I’ve coached over 25 years and attended dozens of clinics im not coaching him face to face mom commenting on a board Clinics are the worst...except for getting away from home and drinking. 2 Quote Link to comment
Husker in WI Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, OTHusker said: Which he didn’t do nor did he last season thats why he saw less playing time His tackling was only part of the benching, and once he was reinstated as a starter (after one game, if I remember correctly) he was always on the field. He saw less playing time in one game early in the year - either it's not as bad as you think, or we don't have anyone the coaches trust more. Probably some of both. Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, OTHusker said: I’m not coaching him up im commenting on an internet board and I’m negative on the way he tackled last year does anyone really think this kid is even in the 35th percentile for tackling in this league ? Commented on the video i saw in this thread which looked like more of the same from last year which wasn’t good I’ve coached over 25 years and attended dozens of clinics im not coaching him face to face mom commenting on a board As long as people aren't tweetng at players or going to games and being an idiot towards them, I don't see the big deal in criticising kids play on a football forum. Believe it or not, not every player on the team is good. We were 4-8 last year 1 Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, OTHusker said: Which he didn’t do nor did he last season thats why he saw less playing time This coaching staff had him for 1 year, you must believe in miracles! Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, OTHusker said: Which he didn’t do nor did he last season thats why he saw less playing time Literally no one is saying he was awesome last year or any pryor year. People are merely arguing with the absurd notion that you can judge how well he tackled in a 3 sec of video. It’s also pame to pick out the most negative thing you can find, but that seems to be common with your posts, as the poster above stated. Quote Link to comment
OTHusker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: I will judge LJ with his play this upcoming season. I saw many times him shying away last year and it was annoying to watch. I think all the fans are hoping he has improved, but want to see it on Saturdays. Hater we all want to see him play better no harm in that our tackling is weak otherwise we don’t give up 31 ppg the facts are the facts its got to improve for us to move forward or we can bury our heads in the sand and pretend it’s not an issue or not have enough football knowledge to appreciate that it is a problem Quote Link to comment
OTHusker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: As long as people aren't tweetng at players or going to games and being an idiot towards them, I don't see the big deal in criticising kids play on a football forum. Believe it or not, not every player on the team is good. We were 4-8 last year Tackling is about technique but also a lot about want to while this player has freakishly good athletic skills his tackling has consistently been bad he shied away from contact last year took terrible angles and whiffed a bunch goes back to very shallow recruiting classes in that position group so he may be the cleanest dirty shirt we have to wear sure hoping he gets better or someone better steps up just not s fan of non physical play or lack of discipline Quote Link to comment
OTHusker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said: This coaching staff had him for 1 year, you must believe in miracles! If a player has already been playing football for 11-12 years when it comes to tackling and the want to there by year 12 if it isn’t there it isn’t going to magically appear it isn’t about learning how to jam a receiver or pattern read or banjo it’s either in your dna by then or it’s not Quote Link to comment
Husker in WI Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Tackling is a problem, no one disagrees there. Where some people disagree is the claim that the video is an example of that - it's not great form, but it did the job. We can agree to disagree there, but in any case it's one clip and we'll see if it's still a problem on Saturdays. For all we know Fisher chewed him out for it in film review, or maybe the guy was out of bounds already. Somewhat to Big Ern's point I think criticism of play is fair on a board, but I'm curious what the rationale is behind using numbers or "this player" to do it. I know a lot of former players and media members do it as well, but why? We all know who we're talking about, I'm just genuinely curious about the difference between "Jackson has shied away from contact" and "this player has shied away from contact" and similar statements. I know a lot on twitter was directed at Young - what's better about saying "#5 took a bad angle" as opposed to "Young?" Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, OTHusker said: If a player has already been playing football for 11-12 years when it comes to tackling and the want to there by year 12 if it isn’t there it isn’t going to magically appear You already said that Riley's coaching staff was terrible. You have to break bad habits to install good ones. The new staff even said that the first year was about basics. I think you just like to argue. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Husker in WI said: Tackling is a problem, no one disagrees there. Where some people disagree is the claim that the video is an example of that - it's not great form, but it did the job. We can agree to disagree there, but in any case it's one clip and we'll see if it's still a problem on Saturdays. For all we know Fisher chewed him out for it in film review, or maybe the guy was out of bounds already. Somewhat to Big Ern's point I think criticism of play is fair on a board, but I'm curious what the rationale is behind using numbers or "this player" to do it. I know a lot of former players and media members do it as well, but why? We all know who we're talking about, I'm just genuinely curious about the difference between "Jackson has shied away from contact" and "this player has shied away from contact" and similar statements. I know a lot on twitter was directed at Young - what's better about saying "#5 took a bad angle" as opposed to "Young?" Angles are the hardest thing to coach on defense and it isn't even close. 1 Quote Link to comment
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