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Duval's S&C - Year 2

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12 hours ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

I have to imagine, to a player, the staff still didn't like the S&C of the team up to this point, meaning they felt they still had a ways to go to maximize the potential of the current players. One year in a rigorous S&C program probably isn't enough, especially if the players are directionless and unaware of what to expect, which was partially the case last December.

 

Then there are also guys like Maurice Washington who barely had any time to bulk up last year. I'm excited to see what he looks like in the fall after an entire offseason with Duval.

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16 minutes ago, Enhance said:

I have to imagine, to a player, the staff still didn't like the S&C of the team up to this point, meaning they felt they still had a ways to go to maximize the potential of the current players. One year in a rigorous S&C program probably isn't enough, especially if the players are directionless and unaware of what to expect, which was partially the case last December.

 

Then there are also guys like Maurice Washington who barely had any time to bulk up last year. I'm excited to see what he looks like in the fall after an entire offseason with Duval.

 

Yeah I've thought the same about MW as well.  I also love how Frost definitely gets it as far as how important s & c is.  Never heard a peep about that from the previous coaches after Osborne at least.

 

 

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Washington and Tannor have the potential to look entirely different physically next year. Exciting stuff. Hope Daniels can take that step too. 

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8 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

He said it in the post game.  Basically they got beat because Iowa was bigger and stronger.  Also something like that's not going to happen anymore.

Yep, and they're still not in the position they want to be from a recruiting/roster standpoint. Nebraska only had one off-season recruiting to the 3-4 with Diaco and now half the players from that class aren't here for a variety of reasons. That's dreadful. Follow that up by a 'let's do the best we can' class in Frost's first year and now this class.

 

It's probably still going to be about two years until the lack of size/strength is no longer an issue. Probably about the time someone like Ty Robinson is weighted up and producing significant PT.

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Speaking of the roster, @Mavric posted (somewhere) that 11 players in this recruiting class are 6’4 or taller and 17 on the current roster are 6’4 or taller.

 

If we get no more tall guys this class and get 30 players that’s 37% of the incoming class vs 12% of the roster. If we assume the 17 are scholarship players, it’s 20% of the scholarship players.

 

Regardless, the staff is definitely changing the type of player we’re going to have. 

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23 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

Speaking of the roster, @Mavric posted (somewhere) that 11 players in this recruiting class are 6’4 or taller and 17 on the current roster are 6’4 or taller.

 

If we get no more tall guys this class and get 30 players that’s 37% of the incoming class vs 12% of the roster. If we assume the 17 are scholarship players, it’s 20% of the scholarship players.

 

Regardless, the staff is definitely changing the type of player we’re going to have. 

If we bring in 30 scholarship players, then there's maximum of 58 possible current scholarship players because of the 85 limit with an additional 3 oversigned. 17 of 58 is 29%, so while it's a change, it's not that big of a change.

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23 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

If we bring in 30 scholarship players, then there's maximum of 58 possible current scholarship players because of the 85 limit with an additional 3 oversigned. 17 of 58 is 29%, so while it's a change, it's not that big of a change.

 

 

My % is assuming @Mavric is talking about the roster for 2018.

 

 

Edit: it might also have been the 2 deep roster. Not sure. There are 29/114 6’4 or taller on the 2019-2020 roster but that includes walk ons. 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Moiraine said:

Speaking of the roster, @Mavric posted (somewhere) that 11 players in this recruiting class are 6’4 or taller and 17 on the current roster are 6’4 or taller.

 

If we get no more tall guys this class and get 30 players that’s 37% of the incoming class vs 12% of the roster. If we assume the 17 are scholarship players, it’s 20% of the scholarship players.

 

Regardless, the staff is definitely changing the type of player we’re going to have. 

I don't know if the following was published anywhere, but Benning made some comment this morning about having talked to Chinander recently about the biggest thing he learned with the B1G in year one. Apparently, Chinander said it was just understanding what kind of competition they were up against and what they need to combat it. They had a pretty good idea but it was one of those things you have to be enveloped in to truly understand.

 

And then this all gets back to some of the comments Frost made all year - there were too many times this year that Nebraska wasn't the biggest, strongest and fastest team on the field.

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On ‎1‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 5:14 PM, theknife said:

 

I don't have any issue with this. He's just being honest.

this is tongue in cheek stuff.  nothing more..  if you have ever had a huge worked out after a lay off walking strait can be a goal for a day..  lol.

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5 hours ago, San Diego Husker said:

this is tongue in cheek stuff.  nothing more..  if you have ever had a huge worked out after a lay off walking strait can be a goal for a day..  lol.

I hadn't done a leg day in a while and when I finally did I could walk for the next 5 days

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On 12/23/2018 at 1:29 AM, suh_fan93 said:

 

Maybe I've just missed the information but where is the 'sports information' from the Athletic Department anymore?   I have fully expected and impatiently been waiting for the raw data / numbers on the team (the basic weights, measures, times, etc) for the testing and development from last year and hopefully we'll see the numbers from pre-winter conditioning testing for the upcoming season.   They may be taking some time off although since we didn't have any bowl prep or formal practices since late November, I would assume the players have been hitting the conditioning, lifting, etc some since then and ought to be going full bore shortly.   The team - reportedly - made some good progress in year one of Duval, etal strength and conditioning although all I ever heard were generalized statements of 'the team is in much better shape' and such.   Where are the hard numbers such as players weights, lifts, times, indexes, etc?    It may well be that the numbers were bad, they opted to keep it secret so as to not encourage the opposition but on the other hand it seems the fans need to hear some good news beyond 4 -8 is not the same as 4-8 and the eye test suggests the team is much improved.   

 

Who is the SID by the way?    We used to hear from him in interviews, public statements, etc.   Has Duval or Epley been interviewed recently?   If they don't want to release individual data, they can surely put together some team averages, body fat % s, etc etc etc.   Fans need something to talk about and something to really hold on to as they try to stay positive and encouraged for the future.     I know I am far away in upstate NY(so info is limited). but still I would expect something to ponder and actually discuss and read about 

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Mad props for bringing up this super important point again. I especially love the part where you wrote 1000 words to get your point across. 

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13 hours ago, Swiv3D said:

I hadn't done a leg day in a while and when I finally did I could walk for the next 5 days

This sounds like an incomplete story.  What happened after 5 days, could you still walk or did your legs fall off?

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20 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

This sounds like an incomplete story.  What happened after 5 days, could you still walk or did your legs fall off?

Aliens came and stole them from me. They did, however, give me a pair of legs that weren't sore and stronger than the old ones

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53 minutes ago, Swiv3D said:

Aliens came and stole them from me. They did, however, give me a pair of legs that weren't sore and stronger than the old ones

Awesome.  This could be the competitive advantage we were looking for.

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11 hours ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

it seems the fans need to hear some good news beyond 4 -8 is not the same as 4-8 and the eye test suggests the team is much improved.  

 

No we don't.

 

11 hours ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Fans need something to talk about and something to really hold on to as they try to stay positive and encouraged for the future.  

 

No we don't.

 

 

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15 hours ago, Landlord said:

 

No we don't.

 

 

No we don't.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, theknife said:

 

 

Thats always good to hear coming from a guy who has been in another power 5 weight room

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On 1/1/2019 at 7:04 AM, 84HuskerLaw said:

Maybe I've just missed the information but where is the 'sports information' from the Athletic Department anymore?   I have fully expected and impatiently been waiting for the raw data / numbers on the team (the basic weights, measures, times, etc) for the testing and development from last year and hopefully we'll see the numbers from pre-winter conditioning testing for the upcoming season.   They may be taking some time off although since we didn't have any bowl prep or formal practices since late November, I would assume the players have been hitting the conditioning, lifting, etc some since then and ought to be going full bore shortly.   The team - reportedly - made some good progress in year one of Duval, etal strength and conditioning although all I ever heard were generalized statements of 'the team is in much better shape' and such.   Where are the hard numbers such as players weights, lifts, times, indexes, etc?    It may well be that the numbers were bad, they opted to keep it secret so as to not encourage the opposition but on the other hand it seems the fans need to hear some good news beyond 4 -8 is not the same as 4-8 and the eye test suggests the team is much improved.   

 

Who is the SID by the way?    We used to hear from him in interviews, public statements, etc.   Has Duval or Epley been interviewed recently?   If they don't want to release individual data, they can surely put together some team averages, body fat % s, etc etc etc.   Fans need something to talk about and something to really hold on to as they try to stay positive and encouraged for the future.     I know I am far away in upstate NY(so info is limited). but still I would expect something to ponder and actually discuss and read about 

Ya know, back in the day when we didn't have to worry about it we didn't get bi-weekly updates blowing sunshine about how the team was progressing. That didn't start until our strength and conditioning were crap. Personally, I'd just as soon not hear about it but rather simply see it on fall Saturdays.

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3 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

Ya know, back in the day when we didn't have to worry about it we didn't get bi-weekly updates blowing sunshine about how the team was progressing. That didn't start until our strength and conditioning we're crap. Personally, I'd just as soon not hear about it but rather simply see it on fall Saturdays.

 

 

I'd prefer if other teams didn't have access to the details.

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Would it be possible to split this year’s stuff into a new topic ao it doesn’t look like a UCF topic anymore?

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Last winter Duval had to ease-back again after already easing-back going into things. Speaks to the deficit we were working from, gains were still made but those just got us from crappy to not-crappy. This winter we should hit the ground running and elevate ourselves from meh to good in terms of S&C. In 2020 we should be optimized, as-good or better-than anyone we face. Ellis was a huge addition. Nutrition is very important, and he's an S&C expert with a great eye for a player's size potential. 

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1 hour ago, Danimal said:

Last winter Duval had to ease-back again after already easing-back going into things. Speaks to the deficit we were working from, gains were still made but those just got us from crappy to not-crappy. This winter we should hit the ground running and elevate ourselves from meh to good in terms of S&C. In 2020 we should be optimized, as-good or better-than anyone we face. Ellis was a huge addition. Nutrition is very important, and he's an S&C expert with a great eye for a player's size potential. 

 

Even Clemson in the NC game?  !!!!

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Duval is a psycho, and I love it.:lol:

 

Look at that face in the bottom left of the Cam Jurgens picture (I think that's him).

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1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

Duval is a psycho, and I love it.:lol:

 

Look at that face in the bottom left of the Cam Jurgens picture (I think that's him).

It is Duval and I love it ! Definitely shows his hands-on involvement and investment in the players. 

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11 minutes ago, The Murphinator said:

Mo is going to be scary good next year

 

I can't wait to see Mo after a year of S&C.  He should be a harder runner, be able to withstand more contact, and be able to play more snaps.

 

We didn't see many plays of Mo and Ozigbo on the field together in 2018.  I expect to see Mo and another RB on the field together quite a bit in 2019.

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On 12/20/2018 at 8:34 AM, suh_fan93 said:

 

Yeah I've thought the same about MW as well.  I also love how Frost definitely gets it as far as how important s & c is.  Never heard a peep about that from the previous coaches after Osborne at least.

 

 

Of course not....All you need to know is how to Pound da rock baby.  You know, thats what I really love about this team.

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4 hours ago, GBRFAN said:

 

Even Clemson in the NC game?  !!!!

If Duval had Maliek Collins and Vincent Vallentine, hell yeah!

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On 12/20/2018 at 8:34 AM, suh_fan93 said:

 

Yeah I've thought the same about MW as well.  I also love how Frost definitely gets it as far as how important s & c is.  Never heard a peep about that from the previous coaches after Osborne at least.

 

 

Then you don't listen very well because Bo talked about it quite frequently

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56 minutes ago, KingBlank said:

Then you don't listen very well because Bo talked about it quite frequently

 

 

You actually listened to Bo?  

 

God bless you.

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Murphinator said:

Mo is going to be scary good next year

 

Look for a 20 lb increase pretty quickly. 

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2 minutes ago, Vince R. said:

Look for a 20 lb increase pretty quickly. 

 

Yep. The guy is going to be dominant next year. Fully expect him to get 1,000 yards from scrimmage himself, if he stays healthy.

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1400 yds from scrimmage. 1000k rushing 400 rec 

 

nice to to see striation’s on our DIV 1 football players instead of round mounds of “size”. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Moiraine just wanted this thread split out so she could see some eye candy. 

 

 

Mike Williams is my favorite.

 

I mean, no, of course not. 

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6 hours ago, Mo Washington said:

"If you don’t look homeless while you workin then you ain’t workin hard enough"


This validates my attire when mowing my lawn.

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