Huskers93-97 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Based on the beating Clemson gave Bama in the National Championship just shows recruiting rankings are not all. It shows you dont have to recruit in the top 5 to win it all. The Clemson team that just dismantled Bama is made up of kids from the last 5 cycles. These class rankings below are the 247 Composite. 2014- RS Seniors/ 24th 2015- Seniors / 9th 2016- Juniors / 11th 2017-Sophs / 16th 2018 Freshman/ 7th I dont know about everyone else- but that is VERY encouraging to me. I think we can do that here at Nebraska. I think that is exactly what many believe we can do. Be in the top 10-20 most years with a crack into the top 10 every few years. Those classes are far inferior to the 1st and 2nd ranked classes bama pulls down every year yet they were superior on the field. Coaching Matters. To add to this. The 4 classes that led up the their run of the last 4 years of the CFP every year with one other National Championship in there as well. 2013- 15th 2012- 20th 2011- 10th 2010- 27th 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Xmas32 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said: Based on the beating Clemson gave Bama in the National Championship just shows recruiting rankings are not all. It shows you dont have to recruit in the top 5 to win it all. The Clemson team that just dismantled Bama is made up of kids from the last 5 cycles. These class rankings below are the 247 Composite. 2014- RS Seniors/ 24th 2015- Seniors / 9th 2016- Juniors / 11th 2017-Sophs / 16th 2018 Freshman/ 7th I dont know about everyone else- but that is VERY encouraging to me. I think we can do that here at Nebraska. I think that is exactly what many believe we can do. Be in the top 10-20 most years with a crack into the top 10 every few years. Those classes are far inferior to the 1st and 2nd ranked classes bama pulls down every year yet they were superior on the field. Coaching Matters. Coaching and coaching stability definitely matter. Let's not forget that Clemson had a generational QB with Watson and looks to have another beast with Lawrence. You can definitely win with less than stacked classes as long as you don't whiff on the QB. Thankfully for NU, they've got the QB part nailed for the next couple years. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said: Based on the beating Clemson gave Bama in the National Championship just shows recruiting rankings are not all. It shows you dont have to recruit in the top 5 to win it all. The Clemson team that just dismantled Bama is made up of kids from the last 5 cycles. These class rankings below are the 247 Composite. 2014- RS Seniors/ 24th 2015- Seniors / 9th 2016- Juniors / 11th 2017-Sophs / 16th 2018 Freshman/ 7th I dont know about everyone else- but that is VERY encouraging to me. I think we can do that here at Nebraska. I think that is exactly what many believe we can do. Be in the top 10-20 most years with a crack into the top 10 every few years. Those classes are far inferior to the 1st and 2nd ranked classes bama pulls down every year yet they were superior on the field. Coaching Matters. To add to this. The 4 classes that led up the their run of the last 4 years of the CFP every year with one other National Championship in there as well. 2013- 15th 2012- 20th 2011- 10th 2010- 27th 2014-Clemson's 247 Composite ranking was 16th https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/ Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I agree that it is attainable. It's going to have to be. As I have mentioned numerous times, only 4 teams played for the national championship or CFP with a recruiting ranking of 16 or lower. OregonX2, Washington, Michigan St. None of them won. Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Getting into the top 10 2x within 4-5 years will be very hard to do...and probably won't happen. I thnk the most overlooked thing is 5 players. These kids are almost always next level kids that are head and shoulders above others (Clemson had 11 of them on their team) we have had 2 in the past 20 years...Not to mention the #1 overall QB who was the best prospect I've ever seen out of HS. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, BIG ERN said: Getting into the top 10 2x within 4-5 years will be very hard to do...and probably won't happen. I thnk the most overlooked thing is 5 players. These kids are almost always next level kids that are head and shoulders above others (Clemson had 11 of them on their team) we have had 2 in the past 20 years...Not to mention the #1 overall QB who was the best prospect I've ever seen out of HS. Hey...he would still win us multiple NCs....just ask him. Quote Link to comment
MinnwiscowaSker Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Their average ranking over five years is 13.7. Would be interesting to see how many teams are ahead of that for a five year average. Might not be as lowly ranked as they appear. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 12, 12, 14, 15, 16 A 5 year run like that would match Clemson 5 year average. The thing to take away is you don’t have to be top 5 to win it all. 1 Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I was reading somewhere that one of the things that put Clemson in its position was its ability to pull elite guys out of the Atlanta area which is only a couple hours away. This is why its so important for Nebraska to do better in st Louis and kc you can't let those guys leave. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 18 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: 2014-Clemson's 247 Composite ranking was 16th https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/ https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/ When I look it up it shows 24th. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Xmas32 said: Coaching and coaching stability definitely matter. Let's not forget that Clemson had a generational QB with Watson and looks to have another beast with Lawrence. You can definitely win with less than stacked classes as long as you don't whiff on the QB. Thankfully for NU, they've got the QB part nailed for the next couple years. Lawrence looks like he may be a generational talent. I would say Watson was a great player but not willing to say generational. How can he be generational if 2 years later they have a kid who may be even better? Also they made it to the CFP the year before with a kid who was not even that good and lost the job to a true freshman the next year. So its not just about the QB for Clemson. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Huskers93-97 said: https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/ When I look it up it shows 24th. It appears that you looked up all of the Composite rankings for all of the years except for 2014 which you looked up the 247 only rankings. Either way, frost will need to recruit better than 19-25 if he plans to bring Nebraska back to glory Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 17 hours ago, BIG ERN said: Getting into the top 10 2x within 4-5 years will be very hard to do...and probably won't happen. I thnk the most overlooked thing is 5 players. These kids are almost always next level kids that are head and shoulders above others (Clemson had 11 of them on their team) we have had 2 in the past 20 years...Not to mention the #1 overall QB who was the best prospect I've ever seen out of HS. How many 5 star kids did Clemson have in the 20 years before Dabo got them on this run? You cant look at one of the worst 20 year runs in Nebraska history and say see- they cant get 5 stars. It just so happens recruiting tracking and rankings didnt really take off until the last 20 years so all the data goes against Nebraska. 5 stars follow the winning programs. Start winning and they will come. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, StPaulHusker said: It appears that you looked up all of the Composite rankings for all of the years except for 2014 which you looked up the 247 only rankings. Either way, frost will need to recruit better than 19-25 if he plans to bring Nebraska back to glory I agree. I think to be sitting at 13th in rivals- 17th in 247 and 19th in 247 composite in year 2 with only have a 4-8 record is a damn good sign better recruiting is ahead. Just look at 2020- we are in on some elite talent. If we can string together a really nice season and put in 9 or 10 wins I think the momentum will turn into a 10-15 class in the composite. Then get 10-11 wins the next year and we are off and running. 2 Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said: How many 5 star kids did Clemson have in the 20 years before Dabo got them on this run? You cant look at one of the worst 20 year runs in Nebraska history and say see- they cant get 5 stars. It just so happens recruiting tracking and rankings didnt really take off until the last 20 years so all the data goes against Nebraska. 5 stars follow the winning programs. Start winning and they will come. I don't think we will get many more 5 star kids even with Frost and winning. I do believe though that a top 15 class consistenlty is enough to get to the Playoffs. Wasn't trying to undermine your point when I agree with most of it Quote Link to comment
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