Nebfanatic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, ZRod said: Other than the fact that he supposedly possessed and sent a video of a minor in a sex act which he was supposed to delete, yeah, not much of a case here... It appears to be unclear if he personally was ever directed to delete the video I thought. New information was people didn't know he had it though I could be wrong about that. Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: It appears to be unclear if he personally was ever directed to delete the video I thought. New information was people didn't know he had it though I could be wrong about that. What is clear though is that he maliciously sent it, with an intent to shame or injure. And here we are. Quote Link to comment
PoloWearingBeaver Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, CapoValley said: What is clear though is that he maliciously sent it, with an intent to shame or injure. And here we are. After previously threatening to do so after the initial release. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: It appears to be unclear if he personally was ever directed to delete the video I thought. New information was people didn't know he had it though I could be wrong about that. Either way it doesn't really matter. Pretty much any precedent you look at means he's guilty of possessing child porn, if it was his ex. See the huffpo link on the previous page. Now, maybe there is an ethical debate to be had about when he aquirred it but that's for the lawyers to figure out, because if he goes to trial with that charge on the docket, he's f#&%ed. 2 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, CapoValley said: What is clear though is that he maliciously sent it, with an intent to shame or injure. And here we are. 14 minutes ago, ZRod said: Either way it doesn't really matter. Pretty much any precedent you look at means he's guilty of possessing child porn, if it was his ex. See the huffpo link on the previous page. Now, maybe there is an ethical debate to be had about when he aquirred it, but that's for the lawers to figure out. Because if he goes to trial with that charge on the docket, he's f#&%ed. We will see how it goes. I'd imagine a misdemeanor plea but that certainly isn't certain. That's what it should be and the new information only cements that for me. You know my stance Capo I'm not gonna keep going over it but realistically he is going to play out the season and if he doesn't get time he is going to stay on the team and finish his career here and hopefully go on to the pros as he should barring any other misconduct. What he did was wrong but lets be rational about the consequences. And the last part there isn't my opinion on what should happen, just what realistically will probably happen given everything we know. Edit: lol i say its not my opinion then I say as he should. Let me clarify that. I think he should finish his career here ect. If he doesn't get time. My view on the matter is 4 game suspension as far as him playing but Ive stated such Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ZRod said: Other than the fact that he supposedly possessed and sent a video of a minor in a sex act which he was supposed to delete, yeah, not much of a case here... That’s an over simplification right? Let’s understand these we’re teenagers in a relationship with bad vibes, let’s not act like he is Jared in the subway ads. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: That’s an over simplification right? Let’s understand these we’re teenagers in a relationship with bad vibes, let’s not act like he is Jared in the subway ads. Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: That’s an over simplification right? Let’s understand these we’re teenagers in a relationship with bad vibes, let’s not act like he is Jared in the subway ads. It’s exactly what happened. Bad vibes aren’t going to matter much. Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Here’s the sheriffs report https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5737501-Nebraska-Report.html 2 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: That’s an over simplification right? Let’s understand these we’re teenagers in a relationship with bad vibes, let’s not act like he is Jared in the subway ads. In the eyes of the law he's an adult. Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Dewiz said: Here’s the sheriffs report https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5737501-Nebraska-Report.html The full report is damning. Pretty clear Mo sent her the video. Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'll say this and then I'm done. Punishment from Nebraska and the revenge porn misdemeanor put aside - I think there is legit arguments on both of those. The Child Porn charge against Mo is a bunch of BS. That law is in place to protect children from adult predators. We're talking adults who pray on children - not teenagers who have consensual sexually explicit material of people within a year of age, on their smart devices. To put him in jail, put him on the sex offender list and basically ruin his life for this would be absolutely insane and I can't with a good conscious say that should even be on that table, after reading that report. 4 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's strange the different takes people can have upon reading that full report. My take away is that this should have never gotten beyond the high school cafeteria gossip. I guess that's what happens when you have a threesome that one of the parties videos. The school gets upset that students have the video. A parent gets upset because they can't face all these people knowing what their girl did. Two boys get their hand slapped by the legal system for participating. And when it comes back up some time later, an ex-boyfriend who did something really stupid, past an arbitrary age date, is facing the harshest charges of all. Personally, I give this girl and her mother's account zero credibility. You should have to prove sexual assault or rape before you refer to it as such years later. At this point in time I would be surprised if this doesn't get plead down to next to nothing. Barring new info, a half game suspension (if that is what it was for) seems about right to me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: It's strange the different takes people can have upon reading that full report. My take away is that this should have never gotten beyond the high school cafeteria gossip. I guess that's what happens when you have a threesome that one of the parties videos. The school gets upset that students have the video. A parent gets upset because they can't face all these people knowing what their girl did. Two boys get their hand slapped by the legal system for participating. And when it comes back up some time later, an ex-boyfriend who did something really stupid, past an arbitrary age date, is facing the harshest charges of all. Personally, I give this girl and her mother's account zero credibility. You should have to prove sexual assault or rape before you refer to it as such years later. At this point in time I would be surprised if this doesn't get plead down to next to nothing. Barring new info, a half game suspension (if that is what it was for) seems about right to me. It is interesting how we can all read the same thing and come to such different conclusions. Shaming by sex video is serious to me and comes with the price of losing out on opportunities like playing for Nebraska. I think a minimum 6 game suspension for sending the video, regardless of what laws Mo did or didn't break and regardless of whether he's punished by the law. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: It's strange the different takes people can have upon reading that full report. My take away is that this should have never gotten beyond the high school cafeteria gossip. I guess that's what happens when you have a threesome that one of the parties videos. The school gets upset that students have the video. A parent gets upset because they can't face all these people knowing what their girl did. Two boys get their hand slapped by the legal system for participating. And when it comes back up some time later, an ex-boyfriend who did something really stupid, past an arbitrary age date, is facing the harshest charges of all. Personally, I give this girl and her mother's account zero credibility. You should have to prove sexual assault or rape before you refer to it as such years later. At this point in time I would be surprised if this doesn't get plead down to next to nothing. Barring new info, a half game suspension (if that is what it was for) seems about right to me. I agree it was annoying to read it stated as rape, as if it was a proven fact, in a police report. When it's been 3 years now and as far as I know there has been no attempt made to bring the accused rapists to justice. Should be "alleged rape" and "alleged sexual assault." I don't agree it shouldn't have "gotten beyond the high school cafeteria gossip," though. I think what the 2 boys did, even if what was in the video was consensual, was awful. They should have been punished more harshly for distributing it, imo. What they did is a lot worse than sending the video back to a person involved in said video, assuming Washington didn't know she'd claimed sexual assault. Quote Link to comment
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