CAHusker Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: I don't really care what happens to him. If he stays on the team, fine. If Frost boots him, fine. My opinion of his character today isn't going to change. He still has an opportunity to change his life and do better. Based on getting caught with weed, regardless of the charges being dropped, shows me he's not yet ready to make good choices. I don't really care what happens to him. -I actually do care about him. He hasn't had the best of luck regarding his teenage years. My opinion of his character today isn't going to change. He still has an opportunity to change his life and do better. Based on getting caught with weed, regardless of the charges being dropped, shows me he's not yet ready to make good choices. -75-90% of young men, living there lives and making mistakes. Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, knapplc said: I've been pretty clear on what I believe about this case, and at no time have I said any such thing, or intimated it. Your need to have someone in this conversation be a bad guy is a you problem. Then what kind of details are you waiting from “the other side” that would make what happened ok? 1 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: Why don't you just say you have no problem with Washington did? It seems you want to. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_dichotomy 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, CapoValley said: Then what kind of details are you waiting from “the other side” that would make what happened ok? It's entirely possible (and likely) that nothing exonerates him. But waiting for those details to come out before offering a full opinion on the internet should be causing so many people so many problems. 1 Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, knapplc said: I've been pretty clear on what I believe about this case, and at no time have I said any such thing, or intimated it. Your need to have someone in this conversation be a bad guy is a you problem. The bad guy is Maurice Washington. Regardless of what the final agreement between lawyers is, he still did a terrible thing. 1 minute ago, knapplc said: It's entirely possible (and likely) that nothing exonerates him. But waiting for those details to come out before offering a full opinion on the internet should be causing so many people so many problems. Why do you need the law to direct you to forming an opinion of what he did was awful? 1 Quote Link to comment
CAHusker Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, knapplc said: It's entirely possible (and likely) that nothing exonerates him. But waiting for those details to come out before offering a full opinion on the internet should be causing so many people so many problems. knappic, you have my proxy. Stay strong! 1 Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Undone said: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_dichotomy It's not a false dichotomy. Either you think what he did was bad or you don't. There is nothing else there. The manner, degree, and timing of any consequences or not is a totally separate argument. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, knapplc said: It's entirely possible (and likely) that nothing exonerates him. But waiting for those details to come out before offering a full opinion on the internet should be causing so many people so many problems. I guess I don’t see anyone having a problem. But if you are right and there needs to be more details discovered then perhaps the team shouldn’t risk it by playing him until they’re out, right? 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, CapoValley said: I guess I don’t see anyone having a problem. But if you are right and there needs to be more details discovered then perhaps the team shouldn’t risk it by playing him until they’re out, right? Seems like you're having a problem with the team playing him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said: It's not a false dichotomy. Either you think what he did was bad or you don't. There is nothing else there. The manner, degree, and timing of any consequences or not is a totally separate argument. No one is saying he did nothing wrong. We're going from false dichotomies to strawmen. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: Seems like you're having a problem with the team playing him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Thanks for answering the question and having an honest discussion, thus keeping the hot takes and message board drama to a minimum. Quote Link to comment
Cornfed Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Ugh. Can we just let this thread die and realize the coaching staff and university will handle it the way they think is best. If you don’t like it you can either deal with it or find a different team. 1 4 Quote Link to comment
30-50 Feral Hogs Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, knapplc said: No one is saying he did nothing wrong. We're going from false dichotomies to strawmen. Wrong leans more towards a legal term. I used bad, awful, bad character. You can't seem to do that. You wrote it off as him just being a teenager. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Question, are the guys in the video athletes? Is the guy recording it an athlete? Are they currently playing? Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cornfed said: Ugh. Can we just let this thread die and realize the coaching staff and university will handle it the way they think is best. If you don’t like it you can either deal with it or find a different team. Good idea. Quote Link to comment
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