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2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Now you're getting closer.

 

Question....and it may not have a huge bearing on the outcome.  But, how old was he when this was happening?

 

Old enough to be charged. Twice. 

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Let’s let the kid have his day in court. Yes this looks extremely bad and it all could be true, but he is innocent until proven guilty. What else can be said? :dunno

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I hate how they do these headlines....they are SO misleading. Almost makes it seem like he is preying on children.  Cant just have a knee jerk reaction to the situation. 10 years ago he had broken no laws.  He absolutely should not have sent the video after he received it, but like most 17 or 18 year olds I am sure he didnt know that it would be a felony.  It happened before he got to campus too? March 18? The staff seems to have found out about it in the fall.  Can t suspend/remove a guy if he isnt guilty of anything.  It has to be a wait and see.  Frost seems to be committed to his players, but at some point that may change is the story develops. 

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Just now, Pedro G said:

Let’s let the kid have his day in court. Yes this looks extremely bad and it all could be true, but he is innocent until proven guilty. What else can be said? :dunno

 

Agreed, which is why I'm generally alright with him playing last year while it was merely an accusation. 

 

Now? Action needs to be taken until the court case is settled. 

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We have very little in the way if facts at this point, so let's back off the gas a bit. Based on the title of the article that outlet I'd clearly looking to sensationalize this story.  That being said, Washington wasn't one of the alleged assailants, nor was he responsible for production of the video.  In terms of what the University did or didn't know, the fact that former NE Attorney General Jon Bruning is representing Mo would lend itself to them at least knowing something (his version at least). Judging from the fact he was allowed to play, I would suspect an agreement was reached whereby if his version turns out to be true, he's good. He may face internal discipline obviously but will remain in the program.  If it comes out that his story doesn't check out, then I could see him being dismissed.

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Worse "may"  be this:    "According to a lead investigator on the case, the University was made aware of the allegations against Washington sometime last fall, but he was allowed to play through the entire season."

 

However I am the first to say we don't know what they knew so it will take time to play it out. 

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7 minutes ago, Saunders said:

I don't believe that's how the law works, but in this case, it doesn't really matter.

But there were no sexual assault charges though.  She didnt file a report after the incident. 

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2 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

15 or 16 i believe if i know my math right 

 

He sent the video to her on March 2nd, 2018. That's what he's going to be charged with.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Old enough to be charged. Twice. 

 

He hasn't been charged yet. Charges are pending. At the moment they're still trying to interview him.

 

 

 

 

 

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It sounds like half the school could be charged since the video was forwarded by so many.  I’m sure because it was so widely distributed, it never occurred to Washington that he was breaking the law when he lashed out at someone who apparently broke his heart.  Taking all of the factors and circumstances together, I wouldn’t characterize Mo as a horrible person, yet. Maybe he needs counseling to develop a healthier view toward women.  I’m reserving judgement whether he should be kicked off the team. If convicted he will be. 

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1 minute ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Agreed, which is why I'm generally alright with him playing last year while it was merely an accusation. 

 

Now? Action needs to be taken until the court case is settled. 

I can't agree with this.  He did what he did.  And he knows he did it.  If he didn't know it would possibly go down as child porn charges, I can understand that.  But what he did was wrong on many other levels beyond the legal one.

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Just now, boach_clack said:

But there were no sexual assault charges though.  She didnt file a report after the incident. 

 

Washington isn't being charged with a sexual assault, though. 

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2 minutes ago, zero_blitz said:

We have very little in the way if facts at this point, so let's back off the gas a bit. Based on the title of the article that outlet I'd clearly looking to sensationalize this story.  That being said, Washington wasn't one of the alleged assailants, nor was he responsible for production of the video.  In terms of what the University did or didn't know, the fact that former NE Attorney General Jon Bruning is representing Mo would lend itself to them at least knowing something (his version at least). Judging from the fact he was allowed to play, I would suspect an agreement was reached whereby if his version turns out to be true, he's good. He may face internal discipline obviously but will remain in the program.  If it comes out that his story doesn't check out, then I could see him being dismissed.

There is only one important fact.  He sent the video to the girl with the intent to emotionally harm her.  That's not debatable.

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2 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Agreed, which is why I'm generally alright with him playing last year while it was merely an accusation. 

 

Now? Action needs to be taken until the court case is settled. 


I am OK with him playing too....its an incident where he didnt record or commit the act of sexual assault. 

 

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Just now, boach_clack said:


I am OK with him playing too....its an incident where he didnt record or commit the act of sexual assault. 

 

Just distributed video of a 15 year old girl having sex.  no big deal.

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1 minute ago, StPaulHusker said:

There is only one important fact.  He sent the video to the girl with the intent to emotionally harm her.  That's not debatable.

Its not debatable, but it may not be a reason to dismiss him from school or the team. 

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3 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

I can't agree with this.  He did what he did.  And he knows he did it.  If he didn't know it would possibly go down as child porn charges, I can understand that.  But what he did was wrong on many other levels beyond the legal one.

 

My POV is this: anyone can be accused of anything; there have been numerous examples of accusations against athletes recently that have been fabricated/blown out of proportion/etc.  Granted that the optics look bad at the moment, we don't know exactly what and/or when the University found out about this. The action going forward is what most concerns me, especially if (as @knapplc has pointed out), he's actually charged and faces a court date. 

 

3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

He hasn't been charged yet. Charges are pending. At the moment they're still trying to interview him.

 

Good point; the article made it seem like he was already charged. 

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If everything the girl says turns out to be true, Washington is likely facing a realistic punishment of probation. Possibly even diversion. 

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2 minutes ago, boach_clack said:


I am OK with him playing too....its an incident where he didnt record or commit the act of sexual assault. 

 

He sent a video of the assault to the victim. That's at least the same level of wrong as recording the video.

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3 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Washington isn't being charged with a sexual assault, though. 

Yes I realize that.  I am saying that at the time that he sent her the video, she had never filed a report.  As far as he knew, he was just sharing a video to be mean.  Its possible he didnt know he was sharing a sexual assault that was recorded. 

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29 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

You have absolutely no evidence to come to that conclusion.

After accusations...not proven and not arrested.

 

Yeah, there is a LOT of evidence that Scotty Frosty is willing to look the other way when it comes to character of players he is recruiting.  There is a preferred walk-on from the 2019 class from Lincoln Southwest that beat police officer, seriously injuring him and putting him in the hospital, during a drunken brawl at a high school party.  Since he was 17 at the time, the parents fought like crazy to keep it in juvenile court and succeeded in doing so (a family friend is a police officer, so this is all straight from him).  In the end, he never was held accountable at his high school for this or by Nebraska who brought him in.  It is not like things like this were not discussed or widely known.  

 

So yes, there is strong evidence that character can be overlooked when it comes to players. 

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2 minutes ago, boach_clack said:

Yes I realize that.  I am saying that at the time that he sent her the video, she had never filed a report.  As far as he knew, he was just sharing a video to be mean.  Its possible he didnt know he was sharing a sexual assault that was recorded. 

it isnt even a sexual assault yet....he just sent his ex a video of her having sex with other dudes. I get that she was 15 when the video was recorded but he was probably 15 when he received it. 

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2 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

He sent a video of the assault to the victim. That's at least the same level of wrong as recording the video.

This is absolutely absurd.  Not even close to the same level.  He was never present.  If he had be present, recorded it, and didn't stop it then absolutely he is culpable of sexual assault.

 

 

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1 minute ago, 10_point_buck said:

Yeah, there is a LOT of evidence that Scotty Frosty is willing to look the other way when it comes to character of players he is recruiting.  There is a preferred walk-on from the 2019 class from Lincoln Southwest that beat police officer, seriously injuring him and putting him in the hospital, during a drunken brawl at a high school party.  Since he was 17 at the time, the parents fought like crazy to keep it in juvenile court and succeeded in doing so (a family friend is a police officer, so this is all straight from him).  In the end, he never was held accountable at his high school for this or by Nebraska who brought him in.  It is not like things like this were not discussed or widely known.  

 

So yes, there is strong evidence that character can be overlooked when it comes to players. 

You got an supporting evidence for your claims of police assault?

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3 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

He sent a video of the assault to the victim. That's at least the same level of wrong as recording the video.

 

Again, definitions are important. This is not "video of the assault."  It's not an assault until it's shown in court to be an assault. She hasn't filed charges yet.  Lot's of stuff pending in the situation. 

 

As of now it's video of three kids which apparently show sex acts. Nobody has seen the video, so we can't be sure about what it shows. If it shows underage sex acts, even consensual, distribution of that video is a crime.

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Just now, boach_clack said:

This is absolutely absurd.  Not even close to the same level.  He was never present.  If he had be present, recorded it, and didn't stop it then absolutely he is culpable of sexual assault.

I didn't explain myself well. I meant it's at least as bad as just recording an assault, not as bad as being present and not stopping the assault.

 

Regardless, he still attempted to humiliate the girl by using revenge porn. That's enough to get the boot IMO.

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30 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It's not an assault until it's shown to be in court. To date, she hasn't pressed charges.

 

Let's be careful of the words we use here. These situations can be far worse or far less severe than they seem at first blush.  Let's wait until the second wave of news hits. We haven't heard from Washington yet.

 

There's plenty of time to kick the guy off the team. Let's be sure we need to before we convict him here.

 

30 minutes ago, mnhusker said:

Seem's he's done ........

Lol

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2 minutes ago, 10_point_buck said:

Yeah, there is a LOT of evidence that Scotty Frosty is willing to look the other way when it comes to character of players he is recruiting.  There is a preferred walk-on from the 2019 class from Lincoln Southwest that beat police officer, seriously injuring him and putting him in the hospital, during a drunken brawl at a high school party.  Since he was 17 at the time, the parents fought like crazy to keep it in juvenile court and succeeded in doing so (a family friend is a police officer, so this is all straight from him).  In the end, he never was held accountable at his high school for this or by Nebraska who brought him in.  It is not like things like this were not discussed or widely known.  

 

So yes, there is strong evidence that character can be overlooked when it comes to players. 

This is one side of the story.  I know cops usually get to tell their side and thats the one that counts, but if the kid is underage he is underage. Can you provide articles or facts for this story?

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2 minutes ago, Hunter94 said:

i would rather keep the program clean.........hope Frost feels that way too.

Unfortunately, your definition of clean and what some others on here are a universe apart.

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Just now, knapplc said:

 

Again, definitions are important. This is not "video of the assault."  It's not an assault until it's shown in court to be an assault. She hasn't filed charges yet.  Lot's of stuff pending in the situation. 

 

As of now it's video of three kids which apparently show sex acts. Nobody has seen the video, so we can't be sure about what it shows. If it shows underage sex acts, even consensual, distribution of that video is a crime.

we dont even know if Maurice knew she was 15 in the video. We dont know squat yet. 

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1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Again, definitions are important. This is not "video of the assault."  It's not an assault until it's shown in court to be an assault. She hasn't filed charges yet.  Lot's of stuff pending in the situation. 

 

As of now it's video of three kids which apparently show sex acts. Nobody has seen the video, so we can't be sure about what it shows. If it shows underage sex acts, even consensual, distribution of that video is a crime.

 

Regardless, he still attempted to humiliate the girl by using revenge porn. That's enough to get the boot IMO.

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1 minute ago, RedDenver said:

You got an supporting evidence for your claims of police assault?

What do you  need?  The officer who he put in the hospital or any of the number of LPD officers who were sickened by the lack of punishment?  Not like the officers have a reason to lie about something like that now would they?  Like I said, not like it was so far under the rug that it did not see the light of day.  Juvenile court is great that way, even if he was weeks away from being 18 years old.

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Just now, RedDenver said:

I didn't explain myself well. I meant it's at least as bad as just recording an assault, not as bad as being present and not stopping the assault.

 

Regardless, he still attempted to humiliate the girl by using revenge porn. That's enough to get the boot IMO.

how do you just record it without being present? 

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Just now, Hedley Lamarr said:

we dont even know if Maurice knew she was 15 in the video. We dont know squat yet. 

I think he knew the age of his ex girlfriend.

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Just now, RedDenver said:

 

Regardless, he still attempted to humiliate the girl by using revenge porn. That's enough to get the boot IMO.

intent was obvious, that's grounds.

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1 minute ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

we dont even know if Maurice knew she was 15 in the video. We dont know squat yet. 

Then you just go from distribution of child porn to "only" revenge porn.  Which is still a problem.  

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Just now, 10_point_buck said:

What do you  need?  The officer who he put in the hospital or any of the number of LPD officers who were sickened by the lack of punishment?  Not like the officers have a reason to lie about something like that now would they?  Like I said, not like it was so far under the rug that it did not see the light of day.  Juvenile court is great that way, even if he was weeks away from being 18 years old.

Got any evidence of any of those things? Officers are people and people lie about a lot of things for a lot of reasons.

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Just now, 10_point_buck said:

What do you  need?  The officer who he put in the hospital or any of the number of LPD officers who were sickened by the lack of punishment?  Not like the officers have a reason to lie about something like that now would they?  Like I said, not like it was so far under the rug that it did not see the light of day.  Juvenile court is great that way, even if he was weeks away from being 18 years old.

1. steps up

2. taps mic

3. states - police officers lie ALL THE TIME

4. sits down

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Just now, RedDenver said:

I think he knew the age of his ex girlfriend.

so you know for a fact he knew the video of her was when she was 15 and not 18? do we know when he received the video? Did someone send it to him recently? did he save it for 3 years on his phone and then send it to her 3 years later to spite her? we dont know squat 

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2 minutes ago, boach_clack said:

This is one side of the story.  I know cops usually get to tell their side and thats the one that counts, but if the kid is underage he is underage. Can you provide articles or facts for this story?

https://www.1011now.com/content/news/Officer-assaulted-multiple-minors-cited-at-party-in-South-Lincoln--474479083.html

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He wasn't in the video and didn't make the video. He should have deleted the video, but people on here are acting like those things are one in the same. It sounds much worse than what he actually did IMO

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Just now, BIG ERN said:

He wasn't in the video and didn't make the video. He should have deleted the video, but people on here are acting like those things are one in the same. It sounds much worse than what he actually did IMO

I agree!  stop acting like he was present and committed the act!

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Just now, Hedley Lamarr said:

so you know for a fact he knew the video of her was when she was 15 and not 18? do we know when he received the video? Did someone send it to him recently? did he save it for 3 years on his phone and then send it to her 3 years later to spite her? we dont know squat 

You're really reaching. But even in the best case, he's still attempting to humiliate the girl by using revenge porn.

 

If Washington comes out and says he never sent that text, then we'll have to for an investigation. But if he sent the text, then he should be gone. Period.

1 minute ago, BIG ERN said:

He wasn't in the video and didn't make the video. He should have deleted the video, but people on here are acting like those things are one in the same. It sounds much worse than what he actually did IMO

 

Just now, boach_clack said:

I agree!  stop acting like he was present and committed the act!

So revenge porn is not enough?

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"But Washington is accused of keeping the video on his phone and sending it to the victim last March, along with the message, “Remember this hoe [sic].”

 

Real lowlife piece of s#!t if true.

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3 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

so you know for a fact he knew the video of her was when she was 15 and not 18? do we know when he received the video? Did someone send it to him recently? did he save it for 3 years on his phone and then send it to her 3 years later to spite her? we dont know squat 

 

I don't think he would've said "remember this" if he didn't know the situation. It'd be pretty weird to say "remember this" if it was a potentially consensual encounter from recently after she turned 18.

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Just now, The Dude said:

"But Washington is accused of keeping the video on his phone and sending it to the victim last March, along with the message, “Remember this hoe [sic].”

 

Really lowlife piece of s#!t if true.

but we dont know if he kept it on his phone or if he recently received it. 

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2 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

He should have deleted the video, but people on here are acting like those things are one in the same. It sounds much worse than what he actually did IMO

 

I think there's a lot of truth to this. Lots of people are jumping to lots of conclusions based on one side of the story.

 

It's a good thing that's never been shown to be a bad idea before.

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Just now, Husker in WI said:

 

I don't think he would've said "remember this" if he didn't know the situation. It'd be pretty weird to say "remember this" if it was a potentially consensual encounter from recently after she turned 18.

or it was a messy breakup and she cheated on him? so he considers her a hoe? again we dont know squat 

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If anything was going to happen, it would have happened since the fall.  Unless he is convicted and sent to prison, I dont really see him going anywhere. 

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