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Just now, Hedley Lamarr said:

or those that drink and drive or smoke pot or use PEDs as well....what he did was petty as hell but we dont know the context of it all 

This. The punishment is obviously going to be opinionated and not everyone will agree no matter what. 

 

For me personally people get kicked off teams for domestic violence, sexual assault, rape, physical bullying and so on

 

suspensions would be skipping classes, PED's, smoking pot, lying to coaches, and obviously what mo washington did here.

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Just now, Hedley Lamarr said:

how old was Mo when he sent the video to her? I dont know when his birthday is. Was he even 18 yet? 

 

 

He was 18. He turned 18 Dec. 2017 and I think I read that he sent the video to her after she contacted him in March 2018.

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11 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

What I'm saying is that if he sent that, even if he didn't know about the sexual assault part, it's still a terrible act. The fact he might have been acting out of anger or jealousy or whatever might make it more relatable, but it doesn't make it any less atrocious. And I'm deliberately making the hypothetical because I'm pushing back against the notion that it's no big deal even if he did it, which is separate from whether he sent the text or not.

 

Getting kicked off the Husker team is not life ruining. As we've seen over and over, he'll many other chances from other schools.

 

 

I think there are many circumstances that make it not "atrocious."

E.g., she knew it was being filmed and they were dating at the time.

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The publicity is bad for Nebraska on this, but if it helps raise awareness among teens about this kind of thing, that's a very positive outcome.

 

Don't send nudes. Just don't. The internet never forgets.

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https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-incidents-timeline-091714

 

Jameis Winston was accused of rape...she reported it the same day. He was also in trouble for several other instances and still stuck around over 2 years to win a Natty for FSU. Guys, this is honestly nothing. Ppl get so drama excited on this board 

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2 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-incidents-timeline-091714

 

Jameis Winston was accused of rape...she reported it the same day. He was also in trouble for several other instances and still stuck around over 2 years to win a Natty for FSU. Guys, this is honestly nothing. Ppl get so drama excited on this board 

 

 

It shouldn't be considered nothing, depending on the circumstances.

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I don't even know what to think.  Such a talent possibly wasted but sending the video to her was just stupid.  What the heck was he thinking???

 

Obviously he wasn't.  In my honest opinion if doesn't have much of a record and gets a good lawyer he can come out of this with probation only possibly.  He's a college student athlete who I would assume has no priors of this sort of thing.   He's obviously still young.

 

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3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

 

Obviously there needs to be a zero tolerance policy in regards to child pornography.  

 

Right?

I think that's a pretty good policy, but I'm not talking about that here.

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Just now, suh_fan93 said:

What the heck was he thinking???

 

Having once been an 18-year-old guy I can tell you with some certainty that he likely was not thinking at all when he sent this, just reacting.

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4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

No.

 

If I down load a naked picture of a 13 year old girl and text it to you, you aren't immediately guilty of child porn.

If I then forward it to someone or back to you though, I am.

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1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Having once been an 18-year-old guy I can tell you with some certainty that he likely was not thinking at all when he sent this, just reacting.

 

Yeah out of anger it sounds like.  

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I’m failing to see the relevance of Washington’s age as to when he received or sent the sex video.  The video was of a 15 year old girl.  Or am I missing something?

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9 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I think there are many circumstances that make it not "atrocious."

E.g., she knew it was being filmed and they were dating at the time.

My understanding is that he wasn't there or involved.  2 other boys were with her - she knew she was being filmed but said it was not consensual (I assume she was incapacitated at the time).  One of the boys involved sent it to Mo.

 

A good person, one raised right, being coached and mentored - one that had run ins and was kicked out of school would report it right away after receiving it.  Especially knowing their future rides on not making waves with anything questionable.  A good person would not save the video for a year or two on their phone only to send it on to someone else or the victim.

 

Count me in as bye-bye Maurice.  Not a good character to build this program with.

2 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

So little fact, so much speculation.   How do we know he didn't get the pics from her?   

Are you (ucking kidding me?

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15 minutes ago, knapplc said:

These are pretty strong words. Do you think Washington intended to be "terrible" or "atrocious?" Or do you think he reacted in a moment of carelessness and did a bad thing?

All of the above. I think he intended to be terrible and atrocious and he reacted in a moment of carelessness and did a bad thing.

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4 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

So little fact, so much speculation.   How do we know he didn't get the pics from her?   

Because they weren’t pics and one person had already been charged with child porn for distribution of it?

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One other thing.

 

The university says there was never any follow up but the CA people have said that Washington hasn’t been made available to them for interview.

 

Seems contradictory 

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I know there's some people versed in Title IX on the board. Should the university have done anything else under Title IX when they found out about the incident? I seem to remember there being rules about requiring an investigation and reporting to the feds, but I know the details matter quite a bit.

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Just now, RedDenver said:

I know there's some people versed in Title IX on the board. Should the university have done anything else under Title IX when they found out about the incident? I seem to remember there being rules about requiring an investigation and reporting to the feds, but I know the details matter quite a bit.

According to the statement, they make it sound like they didn’t know what the incident was

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15 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

I’m failing to see the relevance of Washington’s age as to when he received or sent the sex video.  The video was of a 15 year old girl.  Or am I missing something?

If two minors send nudes to one another, is it still child pornography (obviously more at play here)? 

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

If two minors send nudes to one another, is it still child pornography (obviously more at play here)? 

I guess I could see it in that light.  Obviously more at play like you said

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11 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

I know there's some people versed in Title IX on the board. Should the university have done anything else under Title IX when they found out about the incident? I seem to remember there being rules about requiring an investigation and reporting to the feds, but I know the details matter quite a bit.

 

They don’t have to report anything to the feds. Title IX apples in this case because it is a potential sexual misconduct issue, but it only loosely applies to UNL because the victim is not associated with UNL in any way and Mo’s involvement occurred off campus and prior to being a UNL student himself. He was facing no criminal charges. The only thing UNL could have done is to investigate whatever allegations they knew about, keep it on file, and keep Mo on a short leash. It’s more of a PR issue than a Title IX issue for UNL at this point, in my educated opinion.

 

As I mentioned earlier, when folks at UNL caught wind of this, it likely generated lots of conversations among some important people at the university, and an investigation of sorts. But the investigation was likely limited to a couple of interviews with Mo himself, and they determined they didn’t have muh to go on.

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Just now, StPaulHusker said:

I guess I could see it in that light.  Obviously more at play like you said

That may take child pornography off the books - but it doesn't take the revenge porn charge away.  

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22 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

My understanding is that he wasn't there or involved.  2 other boys were with her - she knew she was being filmed but said it was not consensual (I assume she was incapacitated at the time).  One of the boys involved sent it to Mo.

 

A good person, one raised right, being coached and mentored - one that had run ins and was kicked out of school would report it right away after receiving it.  Especially knowing their future rides on not making waves with anything questionable.  A good person would not save the video for a year or two on their phone only to send it on to someone else or the victim.

 

Count me in as bye-bye Maurice.  Not a good character to build this program with.

Are you (ucking kidding me?

 

 

We don't know he didn't get the video from her. She was his girlfriend previous to this or during. We have no idea that she didn't send it to him to hurt him. So I don't know why you're asking if he's kidding. We're all talking hypotheticals here because we don't know. You're also calling her a victim when we don't know whether that's the case or not other than by receiving the video. She said she "froze" when she was raped. I haven't seen any indication that she was incapacitated. If that were the case (e.g. that we knew she was drunk or unconscious) this wouldn't be a conversation. I've also seen no indication that "one of the boys" sent it to him, but feel free to post a link. The video was all over the school. He received it in 2016 along with the rest of the school, is how I understood it. Maybe one of the boys sent it to him to taunt him. *shrug*

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3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

If two minors send nudes to one another, is it still child pornography (obviously more at play here)? 

I believe they can still be charged with distributing child porn, even if both are minors. I know a couple of students where I teach were charged for sending naked pics on their phones. Similar situation

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22 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

My understanding is that he wasn't there or involved.  2 other boys were with her - she knew she was being filmed but said it was not consensual (I assume she was incapacitated at the time).  One of the boys involved sent it to Mo.

 

A good person, one raised right, being coached and mentored - one that had run ins and was kicked out of school would report it right away after receiving it.  Especially knowing their future rides on not making waves with anything questionable.  A good person would not save the video for a year or two on their phone only to send it on to someone else or the victim.

 

Count me in as bye-bye Maurice.  Not a good character to build this program with.

Are you (ucking kidding me?

You wouldn't have to assume so much if you read some of the article :-) 

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1 hour ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

He stopped attending their school in Feb 2016 and the video took place in 2016. We really dont know anything other than what the article says which tells us very little as it pertains to what actually happened. 

 

I read the article again and it appears he sent it to her because she reached out to him when she found out he was going D-1. Maybe he viewed it as a "hey you made it whats up how have you been?" and he took it as her being thirsty so he felt it would be the way to "tell her off" ?? 

 

This is very likely and it is possible that the shooting of the video was not welcome however the actions in the video were welcome at the time - hence why MW was done with her until the recent contact by her.  NOT SAYING THAT HIS RESPONSE WAS SMART OR EVEN JUSTIFIED - But it is possible that this is how it all went down....  He should be suspended from the team until answers are given - then again maybe they already have.

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My guess is that the video is inconclusive as far as whether it was assault, otherwise I think her parents would have tried their damnedest to have her press charges when it was sent out to everyone.

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5 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

We don't know he didn't get the video from her. She was his girlfriend previous to this or during. We have no idea that she didn't send it to him to hurt him. So I don't know why you're asking if he's kidding. We're all talking hypotheticals here because we don't know. You're also calling her a victim when we don't know whether that's the case or not other than by receiving the video. She said she "froze" when she was raped. I haven't seen any indication that she was incapacitated. If that were the case (e.g. that we knew she was drunk or unconscious) this wouldn't be a conversation. I've also seen no indication that "one of the boys" sent it to him, but feel free to post a link. The video was all over the school. He received it in 2016 along with the rest of the school, is how I understood it. Maybe one of the boys sent it to him to taunt him. *shrug*

The article I read said one of the boys involved sent it to him.

The article I read said she was not consenting to the acts.

 

I will go back and try to find it - not sure when I may be able to do that.

 

Regardless - him making the decision to send it to anyone after receiving it (however he received it) is questionable at best.  

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Just now, NM11046 said:

The article I read said one of the boys involved sent it to him.

The article I read said she was not consenting to the acts.

 

I will go back and try to find it - not sure when I may be able to do that.

 

Regardless - him making the decision to send it to anyone after receiving it (however he received it) is questionable at best.  

 

 

Ya, I'd like to read it.

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3 minutes ago, HuskerJax said:

I believe they can still be charged with distributing child porn, even if both are minors. I know a couple of students where I teach were charged for sending naked pics on their phones. Similar situation

I wouldn’t want to be a teenager today. So many ways to get yourself in trouble. 

On a side note, I feel for the girl involved. Even if it was consensual, no student/person deserves that to be made public without their consent. Cyber bullying is F$&$ed. 

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So in California, since she was 15, that is considered assault right?  Despite consent?

 

And I can totally buy that Mo didn’t know it was an assault when he received and resent the video.

 

 

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stupid move from a jilted high schooler,  no doubt. 

 

after the facts are laid out, I’ll make my own inconsequential opinion. 

 

Until then, I’ll reserve judgement 

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4 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

So in California, since she was 15, that is considered assault right?  Despite consent?

 

And I can totally buy that Mo didn’t know it was an assault when he received and resent the video.

 

 

Do you really think it's sexual assault to have sex with a 15 year old, period?

 

Edit: Holy s#!t, California has backwards laws.

 

And if your last sentence is sarcasm, that's crazytalk. Most people assume teenagers are allowed to have sexual activity with each other.

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5 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Ya, I'd like to read it.

https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/husker-rb-maurice-washington-faces-child-porn-charges-in-california/article_7b65d5bc-3884-5eb6-ad35-70f6d04a68ad.html

 

I think this is it - I may have misunderstood that he got it direct from one of the boys - seems like they sent it to a lot of folks, so I may have made the leap there, or it may have been reported in different detail in the initial version (it's been updated with some corrections since it was initially published)

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Just gonna get on huskerboard, dink around, see what's goin on during this uneventful off-season time of ye...whaaaaaaaaaat?

 

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55 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

he sent a video of his ex having sex to his ex after she reached out once he made it D1....this is all we know at this time. 

 

- She was underage at the time of the video.

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2 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Do you really think it's sexual assault to have sex with a 15 year old, period?

 

Edit: Holy s#!t, California has backwards laws.

No -

 

Do you think that being filmed having non consensual sex with two people would qualify as assault?  Does age really matter here?

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2 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

No -

 

Do you think that being filmed having non consensual sex with two people would qualify as assault?  Does age really matter here?

 

 

Why are you asking me this? That's not what I'm talking about in my reply. Yes, I think rape is okay all the time, as is the filming of it. /s

And you're wrong. It's illegal for teenagers to have sex in California.

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5 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Do you really think it's sexual assault to have sex with a 15 year old, period?

 

Edit: Holy s#!t, California has backwards laws.

 

And if your last sentence is sarcasm, that's crazytalk. Most people assume teenagers are allowed to have sexual activity with each other.

I don’t want to wade into what I think on assault being that I was 15 once.  I was talking more to just what the CA law states.  

 

And it it wasn’t sarcasm about Mo.  I can see where he thought it was consensual and not assault.  

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9 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

My guess is that the video is inconclusive as far as whether it was assault, otherwise I think her parents would have tried their damnedest to have her press charges when it was sent out to everyone.

I agree.

 

As a father of a 16 month old daughter, if anything like this happened to my daughter and I deemed the video to be a rape or sexual assault, I would make damn sure that charges were pressed.

 

I feel as though with Mo sending her that video reminded her that she was a hoe for sleeping with two dudes while it was being videotaped, the whole school got a copy, know damn well her parents have seen it and now when someone see’s her, they’ll know her for that skank who slept with two dudes who videotaped it.

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Just now, StPaulHusker said:

I don’t want to wade into what I think on assault being that I was 15 once.  I was talking more to just what the CA law states.  

 

And it it wasn’t sarcasm about Mo.  I can see where he thought it was consensual and not assault.  

 

 

Gotcha. What I meant by the question was 15 year olds and 15 year olds, because it was my impression that nationwide, it's legal. Which was wrong.

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5 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Why are you asking me this? That's not what I'm talking about in my reply. Yes, I think rape is okay all the time, as is the filming of it. /s

And you're wrong. It's illegal for teenagers to have sex in California.

I was replying the same way you'd posed your comments before - misunderstood I guess.  Obviously you and I are out of synch this evening with tone here.

 

edit:  and my comment was made prior to your edit/addition of the last sentence of your comment about sarcasm - would have changed my response.

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5 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Why are you asking me this? That's not what I'm talking about in my reply. Yes, I think rape is okay all the time, as is the filming of it. /s

And you're wrong. It's illegal for teenagers to have sex in California.

What's the penalty for teen sex in Cali? 

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3 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

I was replying the same way you'd posed your comments before - misunderstood I guess.  Obviously you and I are out of synch this evening with tone here.

 

 

We were talking about the laws about being a 15 year old and having sex. Not about the specific incident.

We just disagree... that's okay. IMO, if Washington knew it was sexual assault or had heard she said it was sexual assault, he should be kicked off the team for sure. And maybe he should be kicked off the team anyway, but I don't think the whole thing is cut and dried.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

What's the penalty for teen sex in Cali? 

 

 

Dunno, but they almost never do anything about it. Looks like in Nebraska it's fine. And Nebraska differentiates between people < 25 having sex with minors and people >= 25 having sex with minors. I think that's kind of a good idea but it should be more like 20. I just have a hard time thinking it's wrong for an 18 year old and 15 year old dating each other and doing things of a sexual nature. That could be a Freshman and Senior in high school.

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So can someone clarify - he forwarded said message sometime a year or so ago when she reached out to congratulate him for his NE commitment  - why is this just now hitting our news?  Was a warrant issued?  Did she decide to press charges recently (I thought I read she did not) or did the state just pull the trigger?  Did it have anything to do with him turning 18 or something?

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9 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

So was he and the two dudes in the video..... 

 

And? 

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2 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

So can someone clarify - he forwarded said message sometime a year or so ago when she reached out to congratulate him for his NE commitment  - why is this just now hitting our news?  Was a warrant issued?  Did she decide to press charges recently (I thought I read she did not) or did the state just pull the trigger?  Did it have anything to do with him turning 18 or something?

He was 18 when he sent it to her.

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14 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

We were talking about the laws about being a 15 year old and having sex. Not about the specific incident.

We just disagree... that's okay. IMO, if Washington knew it was sexual assault or had heard she said it was sexual assault, he should be kicked off the team for sure. And maybe he should be kicked off the team anyway, but I don't think the whole thing is cut and dried.

 

I'm not sure we even disagree - I'm just misunderstanding your posts.  Must be bed time.

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