JJ Husker Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Not booting Phillips was the wrong decision. But what he did was 100x worse. Those decisions are really easy to make in hindsight. Seems some want to get ahead of the curve and boot MW before we have any of the facts. So it goes. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, knapplc said: It's kinda the Godwin's Law of Husker sports. Everything relates back to the 1990s or LP. Dammit... 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Do we know exactly where he is right now? Is he back in California? If so, if he misses enough school, his status on the team might be affected by that no matter what. Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Redux said: Dammit... I miss Godwin’s law, too. Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 8 hours ago, WhatDoIKnow said: I agree with part of what you are saying. It's a different story if he did not send the video after holding onto it for two years. I said nothing about throwing him in jail. There is a huge gap between being in jail and not being a member of the football team. I was just throwing a little sarcasm in there! Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Do we know exactly where he is right now? Is he back in California? If so, if he misses enough school, his status on the team might be affected by that no matter what. I was wondering that too. If this causes him to miss next season he might feel he needs a fresh start and transfer. I believe that is one reason for Moos’s statement of support. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, JJ Husker said: I don't care. Anybody that thinks he deserves any punishment, given what we know so far, isn't being reasonable. I don't care about placating dumb people. Child pornography charges in this case are ridiculous. Revenge porn charges are only reasonable if it was an actual sexual assault and not simply predicated on her being of an age she couldn't give consent. If she was just being free and easy with it, I don't find too much wrong with throwing that back in an ex-girl friend's face. If it was actual assault and he knew it, then he's a scumbag in my book. Then he deserves some form of team punishment. Worst case right now, he should apologize to the team for doing something stupid. Anyway, that's where I'm at with it. You guys can talk all you want about what is and isn't legal in California. IDC. Well, if he's found guilty of the charges, then he absolutely deserves some sort of punishment, but that's to be determined. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, JJ Husker said: Those decisions are really easy to make in hindsight. Seems some want to get ahead of the curve and boot MW before we have any of the facts. So it goes. Except my reasons for it being a bad idea have nothing to do with what I know after the fact. People who drag women down flights of stairs shouldn't be allowed to play for Nebraska. What Washington did isn't anything close to that so the decision is more difficult. I should note, although I've said it before, I think Osborne is a really good person and he didn't make the decision for selfish reasons. We would've destroyed every team in our path without Phillips. Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Except my reasons for it being a bad idea have nothing to do with what I know after the fact. People who drag women down flights of stairs shouldn't be allowed to play for Nebraska. What Washington did isn't anything close to that so the decision is more difficult. I should note, although I've said it before, I think Osborne is a really good person and he didn't make the decision for selfish reasons. We would've destroyed every team in our path without Phillips. I hate the narrative that Osborne did it because he wanted to win. You're right, LP wasn't needed on that team, I believe Osborne when he said he did it, because he thought it was LP's best chance of getting his life straightened out. 4 Quote Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, StPaulHusker said: I don't recall anyone saying they wouldn't still be a Husker fan if Washington didn't receive the punishment they think he deserves. I thought he should be gone from the team. I've since softened that stance to 4-6 games suspension. If Frost decides anything less than that, I'm still a fan of Nebraska football. I'll admit I was one who said it would be difficult to remain a fan of the team of MW was still on the team; although I did qualify it with him having to know that she was 15 at the time. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dbqgolfer said: I'll admit I was one who said it would be difficult to remain a fan of the team of MW was still on the team; although I did qualify it with him having to know that she was 15 at the time. So, one player makes a stupid mistake of sending a girl her own video back not knowing it wasn't on the up and up before sending (allegedly), and you're off the bandwagon if he stays on the team? 2 Quote Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Redux said: So, one player makes a stupid mistake of sending a girl her own video back not knowing it wasn't on the up and up before sending (allegedly), and you're off the bandwagon if he stays on the team? What do you mean, her own video? I don't think she had possession/control of this video. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dbqgolfer said: What do you mean, her own video? I don't think she had possession/control of this video. Well ya know how when you meet a celeb you say "I'm such a fan of your movies!". Same concept, didn't mean to confuse. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 hours ago, boach_clack said: . I was agreeing with your post and making the point to macroboy that stuff like this happens all of the time and is now a part of adolescent culture Well yeah, but when kids get caught sending nudes without the subject's permission, there are serious consequences -- like getting kicked out of school. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Dbqgolfer said: I'll admit I was one who said it would be difficult to remain a fan of the team of MW was still on the team; although I did qualify it with him having to know that she was 15 at the time. I have to ask. Have you read any of the linked articles (granted, they don't relay much solid information) and followed the story and discussion at all? Or did you just see the titles of the two potential charges he may face? You know he dated her......we think we know he received the video when they were both minors but allegedly sent it to her two years later. You know that in Cali when a minor has consensual sex they still consider it assault because the minor apparently can not give consent even if the action was her idea. You know she and the 2 who supposedly "assaulted" her were all 3 kicked out of their high school when the video came to light. How far do you think a school would get expelling the victim of an assault? We think we know one of the youth who allegedly "assaulted" her got the harsh punishment of...... probation. None of this gives you pause, you're only concerned if he knew she was 15 at the time? I'm guessing he knows exactly how old she is since they dated. I'm guessing he knows a lot more about her than any of us do and likely much about the circumstances of the alleged "assault". BTW, yes I know if this deal doesn't end up being what I think it is, I will look like a complete a$$hole. For the record, I have a daughter that is 19. If she had been sexually assaulted, no way I'm letting her school kick her out and the perps wouldn't get off with probation because they'd still be trying to find any trace of their missing bodies to be able to give them probation. 1 6 Quote Link to comment
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