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6 hours ago, TGHusker said:

My idea of a National Emergency is $22Trillion in debt.  $2-3 trillion by this president.    Funny - we don't see any congress man or woman or our president alarmed at this crisis

I get what you're saying, but the debt is no more of an "emergency" than the wall. There are no immediate actions that must be taken on either.

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On 2/18/2019 at 5:07 PM, StPaulHusker said:

The republican government is dysfunctional 

 

They obviously have enough resources and coordination to eyetroll all of the posts that point out their incompetence on this board, so they can't be wholly dysfunctional, right? :dunno

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The border wall prototypes that have loomed on the edge of San Diego since early in the Trump administration will be torn down starting today, according to Customs and Border Protection officials.

 

The eight bits of wall, each a 30-foot square, will be removed to make way for a border barrier construction project that is replacing 14 miles of secondary fence and adding a little over a mile of new structure. Much of the material from the prototypes will be ground up and used as "fill" in areas along the construction project, according to CBP.

 

The initial contracts to construct the prototypes included a section for taking them down if CBP decided that was needed, but they would have had to come down sooner than CBP finished testing them, CBP officials said. Instead, the agency is using some of the money allocated for San Diego's secondary barrier replacement project to fund removal of the walls.

 

The prototypes, four made of concrete and four of other materials, cost between $300,000 and $500,000 each. Six of them are opaque, unlike the design going up with the construction project, which is made of steel bollards — or posts placed close together that allow agents to see what's happening on the other side but block people from passing between them.

 

Border Patrol agents have long asked for barriers that they can see through.

 

Testing of the prototypes validated aspects of designs that CBP already used, CBP officials said, and has allowed them to add tweaks to newer construction designs.

 

"We learned a lot from them, but don't necessarily have a purpose for them anymore," an official said in a call on background.

 

 

So, about $3.2 million for a photo-op for Trump.

 

"The party of fiscal responsibility."

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

Nevertheless, it makes the perfect firewall to protect Trump and Republicans from the accusations, and gives Fox and the Base a talking point they can't be talked out of.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Nevertheless, it makes the perfect firewall to protect Trump and Republicans from the accusations, and gives Fox and the Base a talking point they can't be talked out of.

 

 

They do it with McCabe too. It’s just hilarious when Trump is who they’re defending. They all know deep down he did everything he’s being accused of. 

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On 2/18/2019 at 10:44 PM, StPaulHusker said:

We’ll see how genuine Sasse is if the House passes a resolution on the emergency and the Senate is forced to vote.

 

I wouldn’t hold my breath that he does the right thing 

 

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I walked away from this thread, to keep from further derailing it ,, but since it died anyway I'm going to attempt to clarify some things.

1. I don't hate Hispanics, and i don't blame them for coming here. I would do the same in their situation. I do have 20 years of daily experience working with Hispanics of all legal status though , so i have a different perspective than most people on this issue , and yes some of the things I've seen happening, rub me the wrong way.

2. My beef is definitely with Big Business/ The Government, who i believe intentionally ignored the issue for years , and even encouraged these people to come here, to serve their own purposes. Sure its companies prerogative to do what they want (except the hiring illegals part) but i think its bad for this country to have companies ruining  jobs that people need to survive, and also wrong to use these poor, desperate people to do it.

3. I'm sure there is a utopia somewhere where companies care about their employees, do the right thing, and everyone likes their job , but that is not a world i live in. Jobs in my area run slightly worse than what i have, to a whole lot worse. I'm already working the best available job, whether it sucks or not.. I do appreciate the helpful advice though .

 

Back to the OP i think if the idea of building a wall to stop caravans/illegal immigration is way too late, since illegal crossing attempts are down to a trickle . It's the equivalent if shutting the barn door after the horses ran away IMO. If anyone actually wanted to fix that part of the problem which i don't believe they do, there are better ways to do it.

While Drugs, sex trafficking , and criminals definitely a problem, i don't think the wall is the answer to those issues either. 

I think Trump has greatly exaggerated the severity of the problem, and the ability of a wall to fix any of it. Its definitely not a national emergency.

 

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1 hour ago, NebraskaShellback said:

Have any of you even talked to the locals down on the board?

Yeah, my Uncle lives in El Paso. He thinks Trump is an idiot. Any more questions?

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1 hour ago, NebraskaShellback said:

Have any of you even talked to the locals down on the board?

 

 

Let's say I've talked to 5. In what way should that be used as a reason to create a border wall?

Trump talked to a farmer once who told him California sent all the fresh water into the ocean which caused the drought. Anecdotes can be completely useless, especially to idiots who don't know how to use them.

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