GBRFAN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Well, I'm glad from the press conferences it sounds like the coaching staff and players think free throw shooting is important enough to work on it. I haven't listened to said press conference - would be interested to hear if they focused strictly on FT until there arms fell off. If not, then i guess all is good - cause i think we all know FT are important just as i stated up above. Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, GBRFAN said: I haven't listened to said press conference - would be interested to hear if they focused strictly on FT until there arms fell off. If not, then i guess all is good - cause i think we all know FT are important just as i stated up above. I'll be interested to see how many of our players come out without arms tonight Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Quote I haven't listened to said press conference - would be interested to hear if they focused strictly on FT until there arms fell off. If not, then i guess all is good - cause i think we all know FT are important just as i stated up above. You seem to have gone from talking about spending an hour practicing free throws to..."till their arms fall off". On 11/1/2019 at 4:28 PM, GBRFAN said: Any hour spent shooting FT takes away from other training. If a team shoots 20a game and we raise our % by 15 that would be three points. Improve the three ball or make 2 defensive stops and everything else is gravy Which is kind of an absurd jump. Coach Fred talked extensively about practicing free throws after being asked about it this week. The team shot horribly at the beginning of the Doan game and he specifically had a meeting with the team about it. He said they have been working on it and even guys are coming in the evening to shoot. He told a story about when he was in the NBA, a specialist even came and worked on it with him and changed how he shot it to be better. That's how important they thought it was. Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: You seem to have gone from talking about spending an hour practicing free throws to..."till their arms fall off". Which is kind of an absurd jump. Coach Fred talked extensively about practicing free throws after being asked about it this week. The team shot horribly at the beginning of the Doan game and he specifically had a meeting with the team about it. He said they have been working on it and even guys are coming in the evening to shoot. He told a story about when he was in the NBA, a specialist even came and worked on it with him and changed how he shot it to be better. That's how important they thought it was. you are taking the word hour out of context - i could have used the word "time" and it would mean the same. The point was that if somebody shot FT til their arm fell off it would be "multiple hours" and that would be "time" taken away from the other 5 or 6 things that goes into being a good player/team. Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, GBRFAN said: you are taking the word hour out of context - i could have used the word "time" and it would mean the same. The point was that if somebody shot FT til their arm fell off it would be "multiple hours" and that would be "time" taken away from the other 5 or 6 things that goes into being a good player/team. You ever heard of hyperbole? The point is they need to improve on FT's and Fred made that perfectly clear. You did not seem to think it was nearly as important as the "other 5 or 6 things" Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, RedSavage said: You ever heard of hyperbole? The point is they need to improve on FT's and Fred made that perfectly clear. You did not seem to think it was nearly as important as the "other 5 or 6 things" I have also stated above that FT need to improve. I used the word "FT" and "important" at least 3 times in sentences above. Also stated that FT were equally important to the "other things" above. You can continue to say what you want however it is clear that FT are important to both of us - i'm just not sure they are worthy of arms falling off. You can continue to type until your arms fall off defending your point. Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 10:48 AM, Minnesota_husker said: It has never really made sense to me how you can have guys struggling to shoot 60%. I would almost just assume they dont practice them. I feel like if you gave me a year, I could get shoot 85% in free throw situations at that level... I would be garbage at everything else and fatigue is probably a real issue. I shot 90% in HS. If your mechanics are bad it probably won't help much practicing. Someone needs to show them how to shoot. Quote Link to comment
ECisGod Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, 4skers89 said: I shot 90% in HS. If your mechanics are bad it probably won't help much practicing. Someone needs to show them how to shoot. Other than Yvan, none of their mechanics look too bad. They just aren't consistent with them - the release point isn't the same every time, elbow sometimes pops out instead of staying under the ball. Those are things that can be fixed with repetition. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I didn't pay as much attention on free throws but I didn't really like what I saw on 3s. We throw up some pretty flat shots. There isn't much margin for error when you do that. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Got a question for people who think they know a lot about shooting. What does it take for Hoiberg to fix our shooting? That was a total shocker for me. The thing is, you know these guys can shoot better. They didn't become Div 1 players shooting 29% from the field. So...what is it? I believe Hoiberg knows shooting and will get it fixed. But, can we expect it to improve over the season? Or, is this something that needs to be worked on in the off season for next year...ie....changing shots...etc.? That was one huge disappointment for me the other night. I was prepared to see players not used to playing with each other or not necessarily knowing Hoiberg's system. But, to be so absolutely horrible at making wide open shots....heck...even layups. Wow.... Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The best answer is ... we have no idea. Basically, the question is was that an aberration or how it really is. Obviously the hope is it was just a bad night on the first time out with a new system and new teammates. Because if we're really just that bad at shooting it's not going to get fixed this year. You can get better, but it's a long-term process. But if it's more just getting comfortable with pacing and spacing, that could get quite a bit better. I tend to think (hope) that were were just all out of sorts. We also missed a TON of layups. I can't believe we are actually that terrible to miss all those short shots as well. So I'm hoping it will smooth out as they get going. But it's still pretty concerning. Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Mavric said: The best answer is ... we have no idea. Basically, the question is was that an aberration or how it really is. Obviously the hope is it was just a bad night on the first time out with a new system and new teammates. Because if we're really just that bad at shooting it's not going to get fixed this year. You can get better, but it's a long-term process. But if it's more just getting comfortable with pacing and spacing, that could get quite a bit better. I tend to think (hope) that were were just all out of sorts. We also missed a TON of layups. I can't believe we are actually that terrible to miss all those short shots as well. So I'm hoping it will smooth out as they get going. But it's still pretty concerning. The first 5 minutes of the game they looked good. It sort of felt like the rolls just werent happening. Plenty of high percentage looks that just didnt drop. For me, it is still concerning how little we scored. For a team that is fast paced, that is pretty worrisome. It will take time for guys to find their roles. The flow wasnt good. From what I have heard, Banton could be a pretty big step up for us talent wise for next year. I am a bit concerned about our shooting. Outside of Kavas, it seems like we have a lot of inconsistent shooters but guys who arent scared to shoot. That is ok but we have little for rebounding. I trust Hoiberg will get it turned around and teams wont shoot as well from 3 as UC Riverside did.. they just couldnt miss for stretches. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, Minnesota_husker said: It will take time for guys to find their roles. The flow wasnt good. I think this pretty much has to be the hope. Guys were just out of sync and thus weren't getting great shots or weren't comfortable with the shots they were getting. Because if it wasn't that..... Quote Link to comment
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