ColoradoHusk Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm surprised you don't think Purdue's big guys were "effective big men". Honestly, I just missed them. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Taking this review a little deeper, I looked at the B1G rosters and tried to identify the "effective big men" who were 6'10" or taller. This is from 2018-19, but it should be reflective of the general "size" in the Big Ten. These are the effective big men I found: Iowa -- Luke Garza Maryland -- Bruno Fernando and Jalen Smith Michigan -- John Teske Minnesota -- Daniel Oturu Ohio State -- Kaleb Wesson (technically only 6'9", but at 270 lbs, I am calling him big enough) Rutgers -- Shaq Doorson and Myles Johnson (calling these two "effective" may be stretches) Wisconsin -- Ethan Happ Purdue - Ivan Drago So, I found that half of the Big Ten teams have big men who are any good at all. They may give a smaller, Hoiberg roster trouble when NU is on defense, but I think with NU's pace and space style of Hoiberg's offense, it could more than make up for points given up on the other end. I think when people think "Big Ten" basketball, there is the reputation of every roster carrying 2-3 quality near-7-footers who can dominate inside. I think we have shown that in reality, NU won't be a supremely "undersized" as we think, especially in a couple years when the young guys are able to gain size and other transfers come in who are 21-22 years old (with man bodies) and are 6'7"-6'9" tall. Again, the main part of this discussion was before we landed two 6;8" guys. We would be way undersized if we played only with 6'6" and smaller thin guys. Now, what you have shown is that 57% of the conference had an effective big man 6"10 or taller. Here is the season ending B1G standings: MSU Purdue Michigan Wisconsin Maryland Iowa Minnesota OSU Indiana PSU Illinois Rutgers Nebraska Northwestern The ones on your list are in red. See a trend? 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Again, the main part of this discussion was before we landed two 6;8" guys. We would be way undersized if we played only with 6'6" and smaller thin guys. Now, what you have shown is that 57% of the conference had an effective big man 6"10 or taller. Here is the season ending B1G standings: MSU Purdue Michigan Wisconsin Maryland Iowa Minnesota OSU Indiana PSU Illinois Rutgers Nebraska Northwestern The ones on your list are in red. See a trend? That's a fair comment to make. Size is a factor to success for a lot of B1G teams. Those teams are generally built on slowing the game down and focusing on D. Hoiberg is trying a different approach for the conference. I guess we will see who is right in the long run. NU hasn't been very competitive trying it the "traditional Big Ten way", and I think Hoiberg's approach could be perfect for Nebraska to be competitive. Despite the great facilities and fan support, NU will not "out recruit" the traditional Big Ten powers. However, I think Hoiberg can be successful with a different style of basketball and type of recruit. IMO, NU has to be contrarian to do well in basketball. Quote Link to comment
ECisGod Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Taking this review a little deeper, I looked at the B1G rosters and tried to identify the "effective big men" who were 6'10" or taller. This is from 2018-19, but it should be reflective of the general "size" in the Big Ten. These are the effective big men I found: Iowa -- Luke Garza Maryland -- Bruno Fernando and Jalen Smith Michigan -- John Teske Minnesota -- Daniel Oturu Ohio State -- Kaleb Wesson (technically only 6'9", but at 270 lbs, I am calling him big enough) Purdue -- Matt Haarms and Trevion Williams Rutgers -- Shaq Doorson and Myles Johnson (calling these two "effective" may be stretches) Wisconsin -- Ethan Happ So, I found that just over half of the Big Ten teams have big men who are any good at all. They may give a smaller, Hoiberg roster trouble when NU is on defense, but I think with NU's pace and space style of Hoiberg's offense, it could more than make up for points given up on the other end. I think when people think "Big Ten" basketball, there is the reputation of every roster carrying 2-3 quality near-7-footers who can dominate inside. I think we have shown that in reality, NU won't be a supremely "undersized" as we think, especially in a couple years when the young guys are able to gain size and other transfers come in who are 21-22 years old (with man bodies) and are 6'7"-6'9" tall. EDIT: Added Purdue's big guys because I forgot to check their roster. Fernando, Doorson & Happ are all gone next year. Haven't looked to see what anyone else has coming in next year. Ohio State has a 7', 200 lb commit (hasn't signed yet) Maryland has a 7' 2', 230 lb signed Minnesota has a 6' 10", 220 lb signed Illinois has a 6' 10" signed and a 6' 10", 200 lb commit. Quote Link to comment
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