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6 hours ago, Landlord said:

God I would love to know the overlap of people explaining how dumb and idiotic Maurice is for smoking weed who are also parents who drank alcohol in high school and/or have kids that they don't mind drinking in high school.

 

This is a silly thing to wonder about. I drank in HS and fairly heavily in college. I smoked weed and also tried quite a few other illegal drugs. I am not too concerned if my kids drink or smoke some weed before they're 21. None of this has any bearing whatsoever on thinking what Mo did in this specific situation was stupid or not. I and my kids do not play football for Nebraska and we have not already been charged with felony that is this far undecided. What makes this stupid is he is already under a microscope, he represents a team and coach (not just himself) and for gosh sakes, if you're going to smoke weed in Nebraska, don't friggin get caught. It's not that hard. None of the things he's done are that bad on their own but it is beginning to display a pattern and that pattern is not making good decisions and not doing smart things and not operating in the best interests of his team.

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@Decoy73

 

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Apples to Oranges comparo.  Mo's at a19yr old true freshman college athlete who may have violated a ridiculous CA law before enrolling here.  Not even close to what we hear about celebrities and politicians.

Analogies don't come with the prerequisite of having to be exact 1:1 comparisons. The point is your past can obviously haunt your present and your future, so I don't see the reason in trying to obfuscate that. We see it happen all the time in all kinds of industries and people with all sorts of backgrounds.

 

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Sure, Frost can do whatever he wants here.  I never said he couldn't.  I just don't think he'll go there. We'll find out eventually. 

You're correct in that we'll find out eventually. I personally think the outcome of the California case will have an impact on any potential team-related punishment, but even if he's cleared, I wouldn't be surprised to see Frost/the team hand down some sort of reprimand on him.

 

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Overstated IMO. I'm sure not too many people outside of some Husker fans will care too much about this latest "incident".  I doubt his teammates are concerned with this "negative" pub.  More likely, they're going to support their brother. Maybe he'll run some stadium stairs or get a talk'in to, but they won't kick him to the curb like so many HB members want to.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the opinion that it's overstated. There's nothing objectively positive or neutral about being arrested and charged with a felony, regardless of personal opinions on the law. The law he stands accused of violating in CA is in place for a very, very good reason, even if it's being applied in sort of a unique way.

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Honestly, I don't think much comes of this (or his CA legal troubles).  He's going to continue getting breaks until his talent no longer outweighs the headaches he causes (or Nebraska has a proven commodity that can replace him.)

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Man am I glad all the stupid stuff I did as a young guy in high school and college were not plastered on today's social media platform so people to judge. Young guy doing some stupid things. Find me a grown a$$ adult that wasnt stupid when they were a kid. 

 

In a few months when he is streaking down the sideline against Ohio State for an 80 yard TD no one will give a crap he probably smoked some dope in his dorm room in June.

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11 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Man am I glad all the stupid stuff I did as a young guy in high school and college were not plastered on today's social media platform so people to judge. Young guy doing some stupid things. Find me a grown a$$ adult that wasnt stupid when they were a kid. 

 

In a few months when he is streaking down the sideline against Ohio State for an 80 yard TD no one will give a crap he probably smoked some dope in his dorm room in June.

Again, its less about the dope smoking and more about the dope smoking under his current circumstances. It is a very poor decision no matter how old you are.

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14 hours ago, runningblind said:

He should go.

 

No, one paraphernalia ticket isn't worthy of being booted, but this shows a pattern of behavior and a disregard for his teammates in doing this while under investigation already.

 

exactly..........his lack of judgement and taking up a roster space, while needing a round the clock baby sitter........i don't think Frost wants this in the team identity and culture.

if it is allowed, it opens up the door to bad behavior from everyone else......nip it in the bud now or it will continue. if he does not kick Mo off the team, then his words ring hollow.

it's not about the weed, it's about poor judgement and disrespect.

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1 minute ago, Hunter94 said:

exactly..........his lack of judgement and taking up a roster space, while needing a round the clock baby sitter........i don't think Frost wants this in the team identity and culture.

if it is allowed, it opens up the door to bad behavior from everyone else......nip it in the bud now or it will continue. if he does not kick Mo off the team, then his words ring hollow.

it's not about the weed, it's about poor judgement and disrespect.

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10 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

In a few months when he is streaking down the sideline against Ohio State for an 80 yard TD no one will give a crap he probably smoked some dope in his dorm room in June.

Most of us don't care even now.  I understand the "pattern," argument and in 2019 we are all hypervigilant to not overlook early signs of issues and make excuses, I understand that as well. Like it or not, pot is part of many cultures in the US, elite athletic culture included.  Like it or not, one of the reasons many coaches don't like coaching at the NCAA level is because they are expected to help "raise" these boys. Our coaches know and gladly accept the responsibility of turning these young men into grown a$$ men while they are here. This is part of it. This is kids not making the best decisions in all situations. This is juvenile lapse in judgement.  Scott will talk with him, remind him that this is why it is, "dont smoke at all,"  instead of, "don't smoke most of the time," assign some sort of punishment and after that it's up to Mo. The porn case will be its own separate issue, if something comes from that Scott will have to come up with his own punishment for that.  As far as being a UNL student goes, this minor pot deal is really Mo's first strike. You don't get dismissed for a first strike.

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1 hour ago, dvdcrr said:

You send a message with your actions as a leader.  Is it OK to sit up in those posh dorms and smoke weed if you are a Nebraska Cornhusker football player?  Is that what teams do when they are trying to climb to the top?  

I'd give him a 5 game suspension and see what the new kids can do.  If they crank out  like 6.1 ypc and catch well, I think I'd make that a permanent suspension in the form of a warm bench seat.  Wait for him to screw up again or walk. Yank his schollie.

 

And if they don't play well, you're fine putting him back in because now we need him? If you're actually trying to send a message, it can't be contingent on game performance. And I've never seen a 5 game suspension for a first strike - unless you're combining it with his California thing, but that has to be resolved before they figure out a punishment.

 

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11 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

And if they don't play well, you're fine putting him back in because now we need him? If you're actually trying to send a message, it can't be contingent on game performance. And I've never seen a 5 game suspension for a first strike - unless you're combining it with his California thing, but that has to be resolved before they figure out a punishment.

 

making his punishment conditional on performance is ludicrous!

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3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

This is only a bad look in the context of his current legal problems. 

 

C'mon man!

Context matters.

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There are team rules and then there are legal violations. This is a broad generalization but typically fans fail to distinguish between the two.

 

I'd been contemplating whether at any point Frost will have concluded that Mo has broken any specific team rule with his stuff from 2018. This is again the same question - are there team rules specific to drug use? I'd be surprised if there aren't.

 

So while as someone who thinks Nebraska should fully legalize marijuana use I don't think this is actually a big deal at all technically, the question is, is this a violation of team rule? Going to be interesting to find out.

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15 minutes ago, Undone said:

There are team rules and then there are legal violations. This is a broad generalization but typically fans fail to distinguish between the two.

 

I'd been contemplating whether at any point Frost will have concluded that Mo has broken any specific team rule with his stuff from 2018. This is again the same question - are there team rules specific to drug use? I'd be surprised if there aren't.

 

So while as someone who thinks Nebraska should fully legalize marijuana use I don't think this is actually a big deal at all technically, the question is, is this a violation of team rule? Going to be interesting to find out.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-sp-ucf-players-drug-tests-20170321-story.html

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@Nebfanatic - It's good info. It's not necessarily a one-for-one parallel because in that case, there was an actual drug test mandated by the NCAA, so that's a clear cut question of rules violations.

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