knapplc Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 It'll be a few years until any movement happens. The Big XII's grant of rights runs through 2025, so no schools are jumping ship until then (unless the entire conference dissolves, which seems unlikely because ISU, KSU, Baylor and Texas Tech would be left to join C-USA or the AAC). But who knows. The PAC-12's GOR expires in 2023, so maybe Texas tries once again to join them and figures out a way to bust up the Big XII. The GOR won't exist if the conference doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 @knapplc What's supposed to be the thing to watch is that Oklahoma's third-tier media rights expire in 2022, and a new post-2022 deal is supposed to be announced next year. Supposedly Fox Sports is going in hard on that deal to help ease OU's path into the Big Ten and BTN. Supposedly. 1 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 hours ago, VectorVictor said: I'd wager both would be added to the B1G West, and Indiana would slide over to the B1G East, and the divisions would be (more) balanced IMO. Should the B1G pull the trigger on this. I think you mean Purdue slides East. I like Pods better. NU OU Kansas Iowa Wiscy Minn NW Illini MSU Mich OSU Purdue PSU Maryland Rutgers Indiana Indiana/Purdue play a Non conference game every other year to keep the rivalry. 1 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, nic said: I think you mean Purdue slides East. Indiana is further East than Purdue is. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, nic said: PSU Maryland Rutgers Indiana Are you a Penn State fan or something? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, nic said: I think you mean Purdue slides East. I like Pods better. NU OU Kansas Iowa Wiscy Minn NW Illini MSU Mich OSU Purdue PSU Maryland Rutgers Indiana Indiana/Purdue play a Non conference game every other year to keep the rivalry. Better to split Michigan and OSU up and have them play every year. It's better geographically and isn't as lopsided. MSU Michigan Indiana Purdue PSU Ohio State Maryland Rutgers 1 1 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Toe said: Are you a Penn State fan or something? Nope. Michigan then Nebraska. Pods are are meant to try and keep rivals playing every year and be geographically close. Indiana and Purdue always get screwed however. PSU didn’t get great rivals in that pod. Not sure who their Big Ten rival is after all these years. Quote Link to comment
nic Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Landlord said: Indiana is further East than Purdue is. I was thinking that Indiana is already in the East and Purdue would move to that division to make room in the West for KU and OU. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, nic said: Nope. Michigan then Nebraska. Pods are are meant to try and keep rivals playing every year and be geographically close. Indiana and Purdue always get screwed however. PSU didn’t get great rivals in that pod. Not sure who their Big Ten rival is after all these years. Penn State doesn’t need to get manufactured rivals anymore than Nebraska does. And I’m not sure how putting Indiana in their pod is going to help with that. They would be kings of their pod year in and year out if they get Rutgers Maryland and Indiana. No way are Michigan and OSU gonna want to be in a pod that has 3 top tier teams while PSU has 3 bottom feeders. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Moiraine said: Penn State doesn’t need to get manufactured rivals anymore than Nebraska does. I was OK with having Penn State as an annual cross-division matchup, as brief as that was... Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 15 hours ago, nic said: I like Pods better. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, Toe said: I was OK with having Penn State as an annual cross-division matchup, as brief as that was... Yes I liked that too. I would also like MSU but mostly because we have their number and they’re a good team. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 hours ago, nic said: I think you mean Purdue slides East. I like Pods better. NU - OU -Kansas - Iowa Wiscy - Minn - NW - Illini MSU - Mich - OSU - Purdue PSU - Maryland - Rutgers - Indiana Indiana/Purdue play a Non conference game every other year to keep the rivalry. Pods is definitely the way to go. Here's what I came up with awhile ago when the talk was of adding Oklahoma and Texas. It would have to be tweaked a bit if it was OU and Kansas to balance the pods a bit. So I'd go something like this: Four 4-team Pods Play your Pod every year (those three teams home-and-home every two years) Play one other Pod every year (every other team every three years, home-and-home every six years) "Protected" games each year to preserve rivalries while balancing pods The team with the best record within each year's paired Pods goes to the CCG At first I wanted to play half of a third Pod each year instead of the protected games (so you would play every team at least every-other year) but I think it would be too hard to keep all the rivalries so there would be too much push-back. I'd have to dig a little deeper to see if you could get that to work within the Pods. East Pod: Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland North Pod: Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois Central Pod: Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana West Pod: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas Protected - Scheduled in years where the Pods weren't already playing each other (red=always, black=if possible, trophy game not preserved) Illinois - Northwestern, Purdue, Ohio State Indiana - Michigan State Iowa - Minnesota Kansas - Maryland - Michigan - Ohio State Michigan State - Indiana, Penn State, Rutgers Minnesota - Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State, Nebraska Nebraska - Minnesota Northwestern - Illinois Ohio State - Michigan, Illinois Oklahoma - Penn State - Michigan State, Minnesota Purdue - Illinois Rutgers - Michigan State Wisconsin - Minnesota Trophy Games not guaranteed - Illinois/Ohio State, Minnesota/Penn State, Nebraska/Minnesota, Michigan State/Rutgers Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Mavric said: Pods is definitely the way to go. Here's what I came up with awhile ago when the talk was of adding Oklahoma and Texas. It would have to be tweaked a bit if it was OU and Kansas to balance the pods a bit. So I'd go something like this: Four 4-team Pods Play your Pod every year (those three teams home-and-home every two years) Play one other Pod every year (every other team every three years, home-and-home every six years) "Protected" games each year to preserve rivalries while balancing pods The team with the best record within each year's paired Pods goes to the CCG At first I wanted to play half of a third Pod each year instead of the protected games (so you would play every team at least every-other year) but I think it would be too hard to keep all the rivalries so there would be too much push-back. I'd have to dig a little deeper to see if you could get that to work within the Pods. East Pod: Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland North Pod: Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois Central Pod: Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana West Pod: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas Protected - Scheduled in years where the Pods weren't already playing each other (red=always, black=if possible, trophy game not preserved) Illinois - Northwestern, Purdue, Ohio State Indiana - Michigan State Iowa - Minnesota Kansas - Maryland - Michigan - Ohio State Michigan State - Indiana, Penn State, Rutgers Minnesota - Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State, Nebraska Nebraska - Minnesota Northwestern - Illinois Ohio State - Michigan, Illinois Oklahoma - Penn State - Michigan State, Minnesota Purdue - Illinois Rutgers - Michigan State Wisconsin - Minnesota Trophy Games not guaranteed - Illinois/Ohio State, Minnesota/Penn State, Nebraska/Minnesota, Michigan State/Rutgers I'm thinking in you POD arrangement, Wisc has the easiest pod - really only NW as a competitor. I think the west pod is the toughest - 3 good competitive teams (assumption is Nebraska will be back to being Nebraska of pre-2002 or even the Nebraska of Bo and BCs best years) while the other 2 pods have 2 competitive teams. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, TGHusker said: I'm thinking in you POD arrangement, Wisc has the easiest pod - really only NW as a competitor. I think the west pod is the toughest - 3 good competitive teams (assumption is Nebraska will be back to being Nebraska of pre-2002 or even the Nebraska of Bo and BCs best years) while the other 2 pods have 2 competitive teams. Admittedly I put this one together pretty quickly and had to swap a couple around. But part of it depends on what frame of reference you are using as well. Purdue took Wisconsin to 3OT last year and definitely looks headed up. That pod has the last "star power" but I think it also might have the highest floor. Quote Link to comment
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