Are we or aren’t we Rivals

[Apsu]

From the Bob Devaney era (1962) through the Osborne years until the end of the Big 8 in 1995, either Nebraska or Oklahoma won or shared the conference title every year.
That made for an epic rivalry, not just a rivalry game.

While we are not currently great, the return to greatness is expected under Scott Frost.

Yes, Iowa is a rival, mostly due to proximity and placement in the same conference.

So I can only speak for myself, but I yearn for the days when the champion of the B1G West is decided the day after Thanksgiving in a head to head match up involving the Huskers.

And if that is Wisconsin, Iowa or Northwestern, then we have the making of a great rivalry!

[BigRedBuster]

6 minutes ago, Apsu said:

Yes, Iowa is a rival,

 

That's all that was asked.  Then, we agree.

[Apsu]

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

That's all that was asked.  Then, we agree.

 

OK then, we do agree!

 

But reading further into my post, some of us stubborn old timers yearn for a rivalry that we consider great... a championship decider.

Hopefully Iowa can step up their game and become a traditional power, the way Nebraska was 20 years ago and will be again under Frost.

And if that happens, I will be very happy!

Heck... bookmark this post and I will admit that I was wrong about them.

[BigRedBuster]

3 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

OK then, we do agree!

 

But reading further into my post, some of us stubborn old timers yearn for a rivalry that we consider great... a championship decider.

Hopefully Iowa can step up their game and become a traditional power, the way Nebraska was 20 years ago and will be again under Frost.

And if that happens, I will be very happy!

Heck... bookmark this post and I will admit that I was wrong about them.

 

I don't think I've ever talked to a Husker fan that isn't yearning for a rivalry that is considered great....a championship decider.

 

A program can have multiple rivalries and those rivalries can be because of different things.

[Apsu]

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

A program can have multiple rivalries and those rivalries can be because of different things.

 

Then I would like to consider Colorado to be a rival... so we can cause them great pain in route to regular 50 point victories.

[teachercd]

38 minutes ago, hskrfan4life said:

So should we lose to them 10 times straight to turn the others into making it a rivalry? All losses by heart wrenching fashion with our CFP hopes on the line?

Ummm, sure?

[hskrfan4life]

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Ummm, sure?

Alright, let me talk to Frost.

[Enhance]

1 hour ago, hskrfan4life said:

So should we lose to them 10 times straight to turn the others into making it a rivalry? All losses by heart wrenching fashion with our CFP hopes on the line?

What does that have to do with fan paranoia?

 

Either way, I guess I misunderstand the consternation associated with an Iowa rivalry. I'll put that on me more than I do anybody else. It appears some people get illogically obsessed with an insignificant label, and that's not just a Nebraskan thing. Many Iowans have long felt disrespected in relation to football because of Nebraska's historical success, and many Nebraskans simply don't want to acknowledge Iowa as a 'rival' because it gives them somewhat of an equal share or a seat at some metaphorical table.

 

Ultimately, I don't care. I find Iowa's fan base largely irritating, and I'm sure many of theirs would say the same about us. We also seem to play a lot of close games that, currently, don't really end up meaning much in regards to the postseason. If that makes us or doesn't make us a 'rival,' it doesn't impact me either way. I just want to kick their you-know-what's because it'll help us reach our ultimate goal.

[Ziebol]

Am I the only one who thinks "Are we human or Are we dancer" when they see the thread title?

[runningblind]

35 minutes ago, Ziebol said:

Am I the only one who thinks "Are we human or Are we dancer" when they see the thread title?

That's looking at the brightside, mister.

[Scratchtown]

On 7/31/2019 at 8:32 PM, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

 

Oklahoma doesn't love us like that.

 

They proved that when the Big 12 was formed.

 

Don't some of you think that maybe Oklahoma wasn't very fond of the Nebraska rivalry because they were so bad in the 90's compared to NU. I feel like that played a part but I also don't know anything.

 

 

[huKSer]

1 hour ago, Scratchtown said:

 

Don't some of you think that maybe Oklahoma wasn't very fond of the Nebraska rivalry because they were so bad in the 90's compared to NU. I feel like that played a part but I also don't know anything.

 

 

 

For OU it was always about recruiting the state of Texas

[BigRedBuster]

On 8/2/2019 at 6:42 PM, Scratchtown said:

 

Don't some of you think that maybe Oklahoma wasn't very fond of the Nebraska rivalry because they were so bad in the 90's compared to NU. I feel like that played a part but I also don't know anything.

 

 

That definitely  played a part in a lot of the voting when the big 12 was formed. 

 

Everyone was tired of getting their asses kicked by us. 

[dvdcrr]

All true rivalries have to be ORGANIC.  You feel it in your soul.  As in "those guys suck and we have to BEAT the tar out of them.  

It is fine and dandy for Athletic directors, media outreach, branding specialists, and conference officials to say, declare, and decree that two teams SHOULD BE rivals.   

But then again two families can look at their son and daughter and say well they SHOULD marry.  That doesn't make a real couple.

It is a REAL rivalry when both fan bases say it is. 

AND what generally brings both fan bases to this realization is a combination of two things. 

1.  The passion and heat of the chase,  i.e. both are good and legit contenders, and

2.  Those guys keep coming around here and are a legit threat to our greatness so we have to beat them down. If they beat you, you hate them because of all that was at stake, and of course it had to be THEM.

So we get to Nebraska Iowa.  Iowa winners of of 5 of 6 when the Nebraska fans KNEW we were down. SO no passion or special animus involved.  AND other tough teams are doing the same to us.  Northwestern, Wisconsin, semiannual Michigan and Ohio St. Boatracing.  

ASK the Nebraska base, ask the Iowa base.  No we are not rivals, not yet.  More like a pair of trout trying to swim upstream and jump up past the Dam that is Mich/ Ohio St.

SO NO there is no special hatred for Iowa.  No rivalry.  They are just a tough team on a schedule FULL of tough teams.

Look in your soul.  Who does your gut tell you, that you hate?  That is your Rival.  And for me, my rival is the true master of and primary threat to College Football: Capitol One/ NCAA. The unholy alliance of greed that threatens the equity, purity, excitement, and true nature of the sport.  this last part is slightly tongue in cheek; an effort to spread my view that the NCAA and other entities are using College football merely as a vehicle to wealth, regardless of the game itself.

 

[Toe]

16 hours ago, Scratchtown said:

Don't some of you think that maybe Oklahoma wasn't very fond of the Nebraska rivalry because they were so bad in the 90's compared to NU. I feel like that played a part but I also don't know anything.

 

Yep, Oklahoma was coming off the Schnellenburger disaster and boarding the John Blake fail train at the time the Big 12 was formed. "Not having to play Nebraska every year anymore? Sounds great, sign us up for that!"

 

Could've done protected cross-division rivalry games, but that would've left Texas playing Missouri or something while Oklahoma had to face Nebraska every year. It would've been a gift to the Longhorns.