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Just now, Ulty said:

The absence of a "no" is not the same thing as "yes."

Did someone say it was? 

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I heard that they tried to fraudulently acquire a Husker related message board, and then maliciously incited panic by announcing a fake 10am outage. Frost doesn't stand for that kind of crap. 

You don’t suspend indefinitely and refuse to talk about it if it’s not something serious.

This is the part where I quit reading.

3 minutes ago, NUance said:

Did someone say it was? 

Um...you literally just said "if the girl is going to claim rape it seems like she should have said "no" 

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6 minutes ago, Ulty said:

Um...you literally just said "if the girl is going to claim rape it seems like she should have said "no" 

So your position is that, if the woman doesn't expressly say "yes, I will have sex with you", then it's rape?   It sounds like that's what you're getting at.  

 

btw,  Have you ever had sex with a woman?  Or a man for that matter?  Asking for a friend.  

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8 minutes ago, NUance said:

So your position is that, if the woman doesn't expressly say "yes, I will have sex with you", then it's rape?   It sounds like that's what your getting at.  

Consent doesn't necessarily have to be verbal, but consent must be given. Non-consensual sexual activity is literally the definition of sexual assault. This is nothing new.

 

11 minutes ago, NUance said:

btw,  Have you ever had sex with a woman?  Or a man for that matter?  Asking for a friend.  

Tell your friend that I have had a lot of consensual sex but I have never raped anyone.

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21 minutes ago, NUance said:

So your position is that, if the woman doesn't expressly say "yes, I will have sex with you", then it's rape? 

 

 

Ummmm...... YES!!!

 

 

Affirmative consent is the definition of consensual sex. In what context is it OK to attempt intercourse with someone who has not expressly indicated consent?

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1 minute ago, Ulty said:

Consent doesn't necessarily have to be verbal, but consent must be given. Non-consensual sexual activity is literally the definition of sexual assault. This is nothing new.

 

Tell your friend that I have had a lot of consensual sex but I have never raped anyone.

As for me, I can't say I've had consensual sex with a lot of different women.  But of the ones I've been with I don't recall any of them expressly saying "yes, I'll have sex with you" (or anything similar).  That just doesn't seem to happen in the moment.  But I do recall quite a few saying "no".  And we didn't.  (Admittedly, that's what happened more often than not.)  So it seems like saying "no" might be a bit different than not saying "yes".  

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9 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

Ummmm...... YES!!!

 

 

Affirmative consent is the definition of consensual sex. In what context is it OK to attempt intercourse with someone who has not expressly indicated consent?

 

So you're saying that for consent to take place it has to be verbal.  "Yes, let's have sex", or something to that effect.  Because that's what it sounds like you're saying. 

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6 minutes ago, NUance said:

 

So you're saying that for consent to take place it has to be verbal.  "Yes, let's have sex", or something to that effect.  Because that's what it sounds like you're saying. 

 

It has to be explicit. I said nothing about "verbal."

 

 

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2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It has to be explicit. I said nothing about "verbal."

 

 

So your "Ummmm...... YES!!!"  was answering a different question then.  Fair enough. 

 

What did the article say about Nebraska law?   I'm not familiar with the standard of law in Nebraska, so I'm going by what the attorney Hughes said in the Journal Star article that started this conversation.   

 

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Since we all hate it when posters expect others to do a mini-research project to respond to a post, here is attorney Hughes' quote from the article:  

 

She said LeGrone's accuser saw him come in the room while she and Hunt were having sex and didn't say "What's going on here? Hold on a minute. Stop.

"She has an obligation and a responsibility to do or say something to make the fact that she doesn't want to do this reasonably known to the person that's doing it. She has that responsibility and she didn't do that," Hughes said.  

 

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Did anyone actually read my post above that started this?  I'm guessing no, since Utly only plucked one sentence out of context to start an argument.  My point above was that, although I think LeGrone is a slimebag, and probably a sexual predator, it  looks like an issue that could possibly decide this case is that the victim didn't say "no".   That is all.  Good day sir.  

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It has to be explicit. I said nothing about "verbal."

 

 

So your "Ummmm...... YES!!!"  was answering a different question then.  Fair enough. 

 

What did the article say about Nebraska law?   I'm not familiar with the standard of law in Nebraska, so I'm going by what the attorney Hughes said in the Journal Star article that started this conversation.   

 

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Since we all hate it when posters expect others to do a mini-research project to respond to a post, here is attorney Hughes' quote from the article:  

 

  • She said LeGrone's accuser saw him come in the room while she and Hunt were having sex and didn't say "What's going on here? Hold on a minute. Stop.
  • "She has an obligation and a responsibility to do or say something to make the fact that she doesn't want to do this reasonably known to the person that's doing it. She has that responsibility and she didn't do that," Hughes said.  

 

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Did anyone actually read my post above that started this?  I'm guessing no, since Utly only plucked one sentence out of context to start an argument.  My point above was that, although I think LeGrone is a slimebag, and probably a sexual predator, it  looks like an issue that could possibly decide this case is that the victim didn't say "no".   That is all.  Good day sir.  

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, NUance said:

So your position is that, if the woman doesn't expressly say "yes, I will have sex with you", then it's rape?   It sounds like that's what you're getting at.  

 

btw,  Have you ever had sex with a woman?  Or a man for that matter?  Asking for a friend.  

This is the part where I quit reading.

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44 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

 

This decision is unfortunate.  Predictable, but unfortunate.  LeGrone is a slimebag and sexual predator.  

 

In a KETV article from last year it sounds like LeGrone was researching what the penalty would be if he got caught lying to police about what happened.   LINK

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