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15 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

Was it stubbornness because he wanted his OL to show they could ram it down their throats anyway? 'Cause he should have an answer for that, because other, better teams are going to do the same thing.

 

I don’t really care why he called the things he did, I just want it fixed. Glad to see him admit it was an issue. Most play callers don’t.

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55 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Ya. I just think it's more likely it'll get fixed if it just wasn't fixed in game due to stubbornness.

 

I don’t know why things happened the way they did. I’ve looked at that game several times now, and they didn’t do anything I wouldn’t expect Frost to have an answer for. Is that stubbornness? I don’t know, but we called a lot more runs on first down in that game than last year.

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18 hours ago, ZMagers22 said:

 

Undefeated regular season that included a 20-6 win over Tulane in their second game. Tulane went 2-10 that year. :dunno 

 

 

 

You're totally right. I'm not pushing any panic buttons personally, and while I only posted that in response to somebody else's point about Saban/Bama, I'm happy to give proper credit where it's due, eat crow and be ecstatic if this season ends anything similar to Bama's year 2 under Saban.

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7 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

Was it stubbornness because he wanted his OL to show they could ram it down their throats anyway? 'Cause he should have an answer for that, because other, better teams are going to do the same thing.

And at the risk of getting eaten alive, better coaches have an answer for it.  NOT SAYING HE IS NOT/WON'T BE A GREAT COACH.  Last year, he had answers for it.  Sat, it was the most apathetic offensive era since Frost came here IMO.  

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8 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

Was it stubbornness because he wanted his OL to show they could ram it down their throats anyway? 'Cause he should have an answer for that, because other, better teams are going to do the same thing.

 

But, I also remember a trip to the red zone where, I think, he called three straight pass plays where 2AM had WRs wide open in the end zone at least twice and over threw them badly.

 

The play calling could have been better.  But, when Frost did open it up, the players didn't execute.  

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8 hours ago, brophog said:

 

I don’t know why things happened the way they did. I’ve looked at that game several times now, and they didn’t do anything I wouldn’t expect Frost to have an answer for. Is that stubbornness? I don’t know, but we called a lot more runs on first down in that game than last year.

 

In the 2nd quarter it seemed like he was calling more short passing plays on 1st and 2nd down. We'd pick up a good chunk and soften the defense up. I know Frost said they went into this game with fewer plays to call, so maybe that contributed to the lack of change. Or maybe he could tell Martinez was off on his reads and game and rather than put him into positions to force it he just decided to give him easy reads and plays.

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Frost also mentioned USA had a lot of defensive changes the staff didn't really know about what of time. So seems like the staff thought they knew what to expect, planned specifically for that, and wouldn't /didn't adjust. Which is fine first game of the year against an inferior opponent, and I don't expect it to be the norm moving forward. They spent all offseason prepping a new defense, other teams on the schedule won't be able to make huge changes in a week, and hopefully it also reminded the staff to have more adjustments ready. 

 

I thought we were at the point they could call things not specifically in the game plan, not sure if that isn't true or if they didn't feel the need to do that. As people have pointed out, some of the calls were great and just not executed. 

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