huskerdude171 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 After that first botched kickoff return out of our own end zone by Robinson, he started fair catching each kickoff in the first half even if it was in the field of play. While that may have been smart because our blocking on kickoff returns was terrible last night, doesn't that just show that this team is afraid to make plays? Every big game it's just a total deer in the headlights look. That was a very small part of the game, but I felt it symbolized what was going on as a whole. A team that just doesn't have the want or desire to make plays. And if that's the mentality we have, then no wonder we get stomped out by each decent team we play, and that's why we have these late game collapses in close games such as NW last year and Colorado this year. 2 Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Oh look, another overly negative-biased analysis 1 Quote Link to comment
huskerdude171 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Swiv3D said: Oh look, another overly negative-biased analysis Oh look, someone who's actual giving an actual analysis of the game instead of drinking koolaid. 3 2 Quote Link to comment
PoloWearingBeaver Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, huskerdude171 said: Oh look, someone who's actual giving an actual analysis of the game instead of drinking koolaid. That's the funniest thing to me, if you're not sucking the koolaid after another blowout then you're just a negative hater to half the board. What a stupid view, the team is what it is, they struggle in many areas, choosing to be ignorant isn't going change the facts. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment
huskerdude171 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, PoloWearingBeaver said: That's the funniest thing to me, if you're not sucking the koolaid after another blowout then you're just a negative hater to half the board. What a stupid view, the team is what it is, they struggle in many areas, choosing to be ignorant isn't going change the facts. I understand trying to be optimistic and all but how the hell could you be optimistic after last night. Truth is this team is a lot farther away from competing with the big boys than a lot of people thought at the start of the season. The offseason hype is always unrealistic and out of control. 1 Quote Link to comment
Xmas32 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, huskerdude171 said: After that first botched kickoff return out of our own end zone by Robinson, he started fair catching each kickoff in the first half even if it was in the field of play. While that may have been smart because our blocking on kickoff returns was terrible last night, doesn't that just show that this team is afraid to make plays? Every big game it's just a total deer in the headlights look. That was a very small part of the game, but I felt it symbolized what was going on as a whole. A team that just doesn't have the want or desire to make plays. And if that's the mentality we have, then no wonder we get stomped out by each decent team we play, and that's why we have these late game collapses in close games such as NW last year and Colorado this year. I think it has less to do with the blocking and the team afraid of making plays much more on the new rule that you get to start at the 25. Those extra yards of field position make a big difference on the occasions when you're getting stuffed at 15. Plus, there is the safety element too. 1 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Spielman fair catches a lot of punts as well. It may have to do with wanting to avoid turnovers and injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Special teams are a mess. During the Illinois game i think it was 5 or 6 of the 11 penalties were on special teams. Opening kick last night had penalty then they were off side on a kickoff late in the game. I know the guy that coaches special teams has had somethings that are bigger than football going on but special teams has been terrible. Quote Link to comment
rdwoodpecker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 It is to the point that almost all teams are going to fair catch inside the 10 or better yet take a touch-back for the kicks that enter the endzone. I hope we continue in the near future of either downing anything in the end zone or fair catching anything inside the 10. Reason- first kickoff last night we bring it out of the end zone, he is tackled inside the 20 and oh hell yes we also have a penalty and start at our 9 yardline! Maybe when we get the special teams going we can try to return some but not in the near future. Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I don't think it's a lack of desire. It's more of a realization that every time he tries to make a play he gets smashed by 3 unblocked guys at the 15. Why not fair catch it and get 10 more yards to the 25. Also, Wandale showed plenty of desire to make plays last night even after the game was over and got absolutely lit up because of that. 1 Quote Link to comment
PaulCrewe Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 With the hang time their kicker had on his kicks and the speed of which their cover team had it was smart. He wouldn’t make it to the 15. Crazy what a solid kicker and having insane depth that allows you to put studs on cover teams can do for your coverage team stats and starting field position. 1 Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 hours ago, huskerdude171 said: Oh look, someone who's actual giving an actual analysis of the game instead of drinking koolaid. We all know we suck and arent where we want to be. Some of us just would rather choose to not come off as a habitual petty whiner 2 Quote Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I’ve seen games this year where first contact is just outside the 10. Most of the time it’s 14-17ish. Fair catch all day long as far as I’m concerned. Maybe learn how to score on offense is where I’d start. 3 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Swiv3D said: Oh look, another overly negative-biased analysis Disagree. It's a fair question. I don't think I ever saw anyone fair catch a kickoff until Nebraska last year. It was generally understood that if the kick landed in the field of play, your fastest and shiftiest playmaker had a few yards advantage to work with. They had just spent the first half trying to get Wan'dale Robinson in open space, by any means possible, and kick returns are the very definition of open space. When offenses are struggling, special teams can provide the spark. If you're worried you're going to get hurt, penalized, or lose yards.....well that's kind of a losing attitude, isn't it? I think the loudest murmur I heard from the crowd all day was when Wan'dale caught the ball on the seven and stood there waiting for the Ohio State special teams to arrive. It's a bad look. Don't recall a lot of other teams using this supposedly practical strategy either 1 Quote Link to comment
3rd and long Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 We should always fair catch it. Typically our return gets to about the 20 and then we also have a block in the back or a hold and start around the 10. Ill gladly take starting on the 25. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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