What did we learn? (The NW edition, sponsored by the MASH 4077)

[Mavric]

21 minutes ago, CapoValley said:

I wouldnt say i dislike what you say, but I would say you do so with an amount of snark I’ve been cautioned about and frankly I think it’s a little unfair 

 

Says he's been cautioned about something.

Sees no warnings in his history.

 

[CapoValley]

4 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Says he's been cautioned about something.

Sees no warnings in his history.

 

 

I look forward to this being removed by you. 

[Mavric]

2 minutes ago, CapoValley said:

I look forward to this being removed by you. 

 

I apologize for not including "for being too snarky" in the previous post.

 

I assumed that would be inferred from the discussion.

[CapoValley]

I accept your apology and look forward to the warning being removed 

[SFW]

2 hours ago, CAHusker said:

Bro, did you watch any games last year?  I love what Vedral did, and Martinez is struggling, but that statement is whack.

Bro, this is just an observation.

 

Martinez is not the same this year.

 

He has looked desire less or injured all season.

 

Something is amiss.  

 

He’s just not the same guy we had last year.

 

I’ve seen many difference makers at NU over the last 50 years, he isn’t one this year. 

 

Difference makers carry a team on their back.  

 

see Wan’Dale

 

 

 

[DefenderAO]

20 minutes ago, SFW said:

Bro, this is just an observation.

 

Martinez is not the same this year.

 

He has looked desire less or injured all season.

 

Something is amiss.  

 

He’s just not the same guy we had last year.

 

I’ve seen many difference makers at NU over the last 50 years, he isn’t one this year. 

 

Difference makers carry a team on their back.  

 

see Wan’Dale

 

 

 

The team is in disarray on offense.  Last year it took three games, after a blowout loss, to get on track.  A. We're two games away from that 2018 path and B. Can we have a year we don't get blasted before "figuring it out?" 

 

Many on this board have seen excellence at some point in NU lore.  I saw it in spades as it developed through the 90's.  Adrian isn't it.  Not this year.  And TMart?  Someone told him he fumbled too much, which he did...he became a way worse runner literally losing his juke and tucking head first into the defender to get flattened.  He never threw well.  He digressed in his value as he aged.  

 

He wasn't it.  

 

For me, I am trying to envision these young O-Line players as ever dominant.  I don't see it.  Slow on their feet, too okay with getting beat.  And I'm hoping either Luke or a Grad Transfer Milton get the 2020 nod at QB.

[CAHusker]

2 hours ago, SFW said:

Bro, this is just an observation.

 

Martinez is not the same this year.

 

He has looked desire less or injured all season.

 

Something is amiss.  

 

He’s just not the same guy we had last year.

 

I’ve seen many difference makers at NU over the last 50 years, he isn’t one this year. 

 

Difference makers carry a team on their back.  

 

see Wan’Dale

 

 

 

 

So just to clarify, you were expecting me to translate this response from your original?

 

ORIGINAL

"Martinez would not have won the game if in.  

 

He is not a difference maker!"

 

Interesting....  

 

Ok, I'll bite.  see below

 

Martinez is not the same this year.  

Agree

 

He has looked desire less or injured all season.

Agree

 

Something is amiss.

 Again, agree

 

He’s just not the same guy we had last year.

Agree, but he broke almost every freshman record for a QB.  What we saw from a fan standpoint was something we have never seen at Nebraska, a passing and running phenom.  Pretty much a different maker. 

 

I’ve seen many difference makers at NU over the last 50 years, he isn’t one this year.

You got me there, I only have 40 years.   

 

Difference makers carry a team on their back.

Possibly, but not when there offensive line is young, inexperienced and playing poorly.  Additionally, the lose of a 1000 Yard Rusher and Receiver didn't help things.

 

see Wan’Dal

Love him

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nebfanatic]

3 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

The team is in disarray on offense.  Last year it took three games, after a blowout loss, to get on track.  A. We're two games away from that 2018 path and B. Can we have a year we don't get blasted before "figuring it out?" 

 

Many on this board have seen excellence at some point in NU lore.  I saw it in spades as it developed through the 90's.  Adrian isn't it.  Not this year.  And TMart?  Someone told him he fumbled too much, which he did...he became a way worse runner literally losing his juke and tucking head first into the defender to get flattened.  He never threw well.  He digressed in his value as he aged.  

 

He wasn't it.  

 

For me, I am trying to envision these young O-Line players as ever dominant.  I don't see it.  Slow on their feet, too okay with getting beat.  And I'm hoping either Luke or a Grad Transfer Milton get the 2020 nod at QB.

I just laugh at posts like this. For 1, Taylor did throw it well in his Junior year, some would say that was his best season. But hey, who likes stats anyway? As for the rest of the post, just pure comedy.

[Husker in WI]

I learned a lot of people remember Martinez from last year very differently than I do. At times this year he has been off - specifically passing the ball against OSU, and running against USA/Colorado/Northern Illinois. But since Frost yelled at him to run against NIU he's been good there, and outside of OSU (and USA I guess) he's throwing it about as well too.

 

There is absolutely room for improvement (and he will get there), but you guys saying he's worse than last year don't remember the picks thrown straight at defenders? Or the pretty significant lack of awareness in the pocket? Both of those are much improved, my only gripes at the moment are his little flip throws on the run being consistently low. He's had 2 bad games and very little help from receivers or the center. He is better than he was last year, with a worse supporting cast and a year of film for DCs to work with.

[Mavric]

 

[Red Five]

From Sam's column today.  Make of it what you will

 

5: Wins by the four teams Nebraska has beaten. Illinois has won twice while Northern Illinois, South Alabama and Northwestern have each won once. It’s also the number of victories for Minnesota, Nebraska’s next opponent.

[BigRedBuster]

7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

From Sam's column today.  Make of it what you will

 

5: Wins by the four teams Nebraska has beaten. Illinois has won twice while Northern Illinois, South Alabama and Northwestern have each won once. It’s also the number of victories for Minnesota, Nebraska’s next opponent.

 

So, our opponents win totals are about to double.

[4skers89]

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

From Sam's column today.  Make of it what you will

 

5: Wins by the four teams Nebraska has beaten. Illinois has won twice while Northern Illinois, South Alabama and Northwestern have each won once. It’s also the number of victories for Minnesota, Nebraska’s next opponent.

Spare me the "It's just Illinois, Northern Illinois, South Alabama and Northwestern" talk Sam.  We've got a conference to win! 

[Mavric]

50 minutes ago, Red Five said:

From Sam's column today.  Make of it what you will

 

5: Wins by the four teams Nebraska has beaten. Illinois has won twice while Northern Illinois, South Alabama and Northwestern have each won once. It’s also the number of victories for Minnesota, Nebraska’s next opponent.

 

@knapplc has posted a "ranking" in previous seasons where they total the wins and losses from each teams opponents.  I can't remember who does that.  It's interesting to look at.

[dvdcrr]

15 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

The team is in disarray on offense.  Last year it took three games, after a blowout loss, to get on track.  A. We're two games away from that 2018 path and B. Can we have a year we don't get blasted before "figuring it out?" 

 

Many on this board have seen excellence at some point in NU lore.  I saw it in spades as it developed through the 90's.  Adrian isn't it.  Not this year.  And TMart?  Someone told him he fumbled too much, which he did...he became a way worse runner literally losing his juke and tucking head first into the defender to get flattened.  He never threw well.  He digressed in his value as he aged.  

 

He wasn't it.  

 

For me, I am trying to envision these young O-Line players as ever dominant.  I don't see it.  Slow on their feet, too okay with getting beat.  And I'm hoping either Luke or a Grad Transfer Milton get the 2020 nod at QB.

T Mart was basically forced to play hurt a lot and never given a chance to heal up.  The coaches did not seriously give him a plan B so all teams like texas had to do was key on him until he was injured.  There is a lot there that isn't TMarts fault.  I will never understand playing a kid hurt.

He always went down awkwardly and do you know why?  From the time the kid was 4 yr. old he never played on a field with anyone who could catch him.

I basically feel that NU staff wasted him to a degree.