Attrition apparently already starting.

[Caliborn72]

McQuitty and Bradley make a ton of sense. Nothing personal, just seems like a mutual opportunity for both sides.

 

I don’t love it when a Fr, rFr, or So transfer without developing or making an impact but maybe it’s best for Jones and us.

[Red Five]

50 minutes ago, lo country said:

Do tell.......

Guessing Jojo.  Remember when he was a week late to camp this past summer?

[Danimal]

3 hours ago, TheSker said:

You literally said physical attributes is what he has.

 

I agree.

 

And that doesn't make him a good linebacker.

 

#relevance

 

I remember when they used to publish testing numbers coming out of winter conditioning. Gold medalist Curt Tomasevicz's numbers would absolutely jump off the page, but he was never much of a LB. 

[4skers89]

25 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Guessing Jojo.  Remember when he was a week late to camp this past summer?

Yikes.  Take it back!

 

McQuitty quitting seems preordained.

[ActualCornHusker]

52 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Guessing Jojo.  Remember when he was a week late to camp this past summer?

 

Wasn't that because he was coming off an injury? I mean, that would suck, but I'm down to roll with Nelson going forward. We will see what we have for the opposite side OLB spot. Hopefully Tannor makes a jump next yr

[runningblind]

So Hail Varsity has an article talking about staggering attrition:

https://hailvarsity.com/s/8163/nebraska-recruiting-looking-at-the-huskers-staggering-attrition

 

Because 38% seemed like a lot, I wanted to see what was normal. I came across this, and even though its 4+ years old, it seems 38% was actually the normal percentage amongst P5 programs between 2002 and 2014.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9ASSW4INt1crs9Zt-SZblYHGLOvODYODJbGzggMyS0/htmlview#gid=296423990

[Husker03]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Guessing Jojo.  Remember when he was a week late to camp this past summer?

Surely not.

 

[Jarhead In Red]

5 hours ago, TheSker said:

Except as "base level" as they are, coaches teach them differently.

 

Let's examine a familiar face as an example.  Bo Pelini.

 

Pelini has taught linebackers at literally every level of football.  Barrett Ruud and Demorrio Williams excelled.  In fact Ruud credits Pelini as his key teacher.

 

But there were other linebackers who didn't excel under Pelini.  Their technique and "eyes" we're bad.

 

But that's all basic stuff, right?.......

We can disagree about what is "basic" or not, but it doesn't change the fact that they are necessary if you want to play successful Defense. Do you think errors by the Davis twins, Barry, etc, are acceptable, or are they not capable of being coached "differently", or what point are you trying to make?

[TheSker]

9 hours ago, Jarhead In Red said:

We can disagree about what is "basic" or not, but it doesn't change the fact that they are necessary if you want to play successful Defense. Do you think errors by the Davis twins, Barry, etc, are acceptable, or are they not capable of being coached "differently", or what point are you trying to make?

They are not capable.

[Huskerzoo]

10 hours ago, runningblind said:

So Hail Varsity has an article talking about staggering attrition:

https://hailvarsity.com/s/8163/nebraska-recruiting-looking-at-the-huskers-staggering-attrition

 

Because 38% seemed like a lot, I wanted to see what was normal. I came across this, and even though its 4+ years old, it seems 38% was actually the normal percentage amongst P5 programs between 2002 and 2014.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9ASSW4INt1crs9Zt-SZblYHGLOvODYODJbGzggMyS0/htmlview#gid=296423990

 

I think this is a great example of zooming out to the point it makes it hard to see things. Attrition isn't a big deal, it happens.

 

The problem for us is that the attrition number is not evenly distributed. Further, it seems that the attrition is taking the guys we spent the majority of our resources on (the high 3* and 4* guys). Looking at the article you posted, 2015 and 2016 had 30.95% attrition. Not bad by any means. 2017 and 2018 had 45% attrition rate. While that might not seem the most concerning, you also want to consider context. 

 

The sheet you linked eliminated all context, it just said here are the guys transferring out. Us losing the 2017 and 2018 classes means we don't have the young players right now. If I had to guess, I would think that a lot of the attrition on the spreadsheet are guys who were graduate transfers or were late enough in their careers that they knew they would never see the field and ended up quitting. I can't say that for sure, but what I can say for sure is that we don't know if this is the end of us losing players from the 2017 and 2018 class. 

 

All teams are hit by this sure, but it's not always concentrated in the same way. Additionally, the context isn't always the same. 

[BigRedBuster]

32 minutes ago, Huskerzoo said:

Further, it seems that the attrition is taking the guys we spent the majority of our resources on (the high 3* and 4* guys).

This is a major MAJOR issue.

 

Just looking at the 2017 class.  This is the list ranked by player ratings:

 

18 hours ago, funhusker said:

Tyjon Lindsay: Gone

Avery Roberts: Gone

Tristan Gebbia: Gone

Jaevon McQuitty:  Not a big contributor 

Keyshawn Johnson: Gone

Brendan Jaimes: Starter

Deontre Thomas:  contributes depth

Matt Sichterman:  back up

Guy Thomas: Gone

 

 

These are those 4* and high 3* players.  This has been happening for a long time.  

 

We look at getting a top 25 class, but if the top of that class doesn't contribute, we really are getting a top 50 class.

 

And, that's the results we are seeing on the field.

 

 

 

[Cdog923]

17 hours ago, Undone said:

 

So. Damn. Tiring.

 

I examined that theory by cross-referencing another team's recruiting rankings coming out of high school for their starting front seven. We were on par with them, but we rank #72 in total defense while they rank #1.

 

We are talented enough on defense to not have such an embarrassment in year 2.

 

You aren't accounting for things like effort and want-to. 

[knapplc]

Man, this is the hot topic around Husker nation right now. Everyone's looking for a reason why this season went off the rails.

 

Attrition is a huge factor. Inconsistency is a huge factor. And want to is a huge factor.

 

While it's hard to stomach watching a defense fold over and over, it's easier to understand when you see the chaos some of these guys have gone through in their career:

 

 

I love following Chaz. He lays things out, and he's a solid thinker. If you're on the twitter, follow him.

 

That second tweet is crazy. Three different Defensive Coordinators for these guys = three different schemes.

 

Four different DL coaches.

 

Two or three different LB coaches.

 

Four or five different secondary coaches.

 

I don't care how many stars followed you out of high school, that's a lot of learning, unlearning and relearning to do in a four/five year span. 

 

 

[BIG ERN]

I heard a big rumor on one of our popular players....not about transferring. I will only DM back if you heard the same rumor. 

[Cdog923]

1 minute ago, BIG ERN said:

I heard a big rumor on one of our popular players....not about transferring. I will only DM back if you heard the same rumor. 

 

Cool story, Brandon.