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6 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

Suh played a different position fellas.

 

Suh's numbers are MASSIVE for a Defensive Tackle.  Chase Young's should be compared to Grant Wistrom perhaps for context.

Wistroms career high sack total was 9.5. Chase Young deserves to go to the Heisman ceremony imo

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3 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

 

Suh played a different position fellas.

 

Suh's numbers are MASSIVE for a Defensive Tackle.  Chase Young's should be compared to Grant Wistrom perhaps for context.

 

Right, but Suh's the only reasonable recent comp as a defensive Heisman finalist. Wistrom had 20 TFLs and 9.5 sacks his best statistical year - he was great, but not really Heisman level. There are huge differences between Suh and Young and comparing is imperfect, but it's easier to compare them than Young and someone like Christian McCaffrey.

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25 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Wistroms career high sack total was 9.5. Chase Young deserves to go to the Heisman ceremony imo

 

I think so too...but comparing him to Suh just doesn't really jive...two different positions.

 

As a DT, getting sacks and TFL's isn't as easy as it is at DE or LB.  That's really what made Suh a finalist there...that he was that great at his position that normally WASN'T a pass rushing position.

 

 

Myles Garret would be a better comparison imho.  Maybe Ja'Von Rolland-Jones or Jaylon Ferguson.

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3 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

I think so too...but comparing him to Suh just doesn't really jive...two different positions.

 

As a DT, getting sacks and TFL's isn't as easy as it is at DE or LB.  That's really what made Suh a finalist there...that he was that great at his position that normally WASN'T a pass rushing position.

 

 

Myles Garret would be a better comparison imho.

 

11.5 sacks his best year. I get it, it's heretical to compare anyone to Suh. But Young and Suh are/were as dominant as any P5 defensive players in recent memory.

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19 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

11.5 sacks his best year. I get it, it's heretical to compare anyone to Suh. But Young and Suh are/were as dominant as any P5 defensive players in recent memory.

No doubt. In his last 2 games against Wisconsin and Penn State he has 7 sacks alone. He sat out against Maryland and Rutgers. Imagine what his totals would be if he had played! I think he ends the year with 20+ sacks

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1 hour ago, Husker in WI said:

 

11.5 sacks his best year. I get it, it's heretical to compare anyone to Suh. But Young and Suh are/were as dominant as any P5 defensive players in recent memory.

 

That's now what I'm saying

 

I'm saying Suh was a DT

 

A DE isn't a DT.  DT's often just gum up the middle and take on double teams.  What Suh did was even more impressive than any DE or LB sack totals in my opinion.

 

That being said, Chase Young is one of the best I've ever seen.

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On 11/24/2019 at 12:57 AM, Landlord said:

Doing well with simple play calls (designed qb runs, options, and passes designed where you are only looking at one receiver) in mopup time against 2nd/3rd string vanilla defense is... well, not as actually impressive as many seem to think. 

 

I feel like Adrian is gonna take a huge jump next season. Something is gonna click or re-click.

I think lo country is right, he's struggling with a nagging injury that is messing with his accuracy and will be better next season. Just a hunch.

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On 11/25/2019 at 8:23 AM, ColoradoHusk said:

The # of "should have" interceptions for QB's could always be pretty high.  Rarely do defenses capitalize on every opportunity to make an interception or recover a fumble.  The "should have turnovers" argument always drives me crazy.

In fairness to both sides though, in defending a QB’s play people are always very quick to point out drops by receivers, the “should have been caught”.  The argument is he threw a good pass that should have been caught. So if the QB is going to get credit for throwing a good pass that gets dropped, it should be the same when he throws a bad one that the defender drops. 

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