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35 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

What you linked to when asked about it earlier.

You have the wrong guy, because I did not link to it.  What Nebfanatic alludes to is that SSO didn't have direct access to the material.  He did know people that could verify it.  I know at least two guys on there that were able to speak specifically about it so I knew they had it.  Nobody is going to - at least I hope they do not due to its sensitive nature - put it out to the public.  If you want to really find inside information I suggest you use the PM's over there because the threads get polluted by a few jokers.  I hope Max really likes those few people that dominate the board because they are pretty closed to anything beyond pumping sunshine and drinking koolaid.  That is fine when we are winning, but right now this team is a WIP moving at a slow pace.  Slow and steady does win the race, but it is painful to see missed opportunities to accelerate the process.

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29 minutes ago, madrat said:

You have the wrong guy, because I did not link to it.  What Nebfanatic alludes to is that SSO didn't have direct access to the material.  He did know people that could verify it.  I know at least two guys on there that were able to speak specifically about it so I knew they had it.  Nobody is going to - at least I hope they do not due to its sensitive nature - put it out to the public.  If you want to really find inside information I suggest you use the PM's over there because the threads get polluted by a few jokers.  I hope Max really likes those few people that dominate the board because they are pretty closed to anything beyond pumping sunshine and drinking koolaid.  That is fine when we are winning, but right now this team is a WIP moving at a slow pace.  Slow and steady does win the race, but it is painful to see missed opportunities to accelerate the process.

A direct quote from your friend Short Side in that thread you posted

 

"I'm using the 3rd party that Rivals uses, Pro Football Focus."

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10 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

The point isn’t that it was a QB throwing a pass. The point is that Luke wasn’t coming in to take over for Adrian and be the QB for the rest of that game or even that series. He was brought in to run that specific “gadget” play which was designed specifically for Luke.  That’s why basically it was a trick play. If the pass had been incomplete or Iowa’s DBs stayed on Spielman and Luke ran the ball for a few yards, he was most likely returning to the bench on the next play.  That’s why Adrian went back at QB the next offense play/drive after the Luke TD pass. If Frost were trying a different QB to test something out with the QB’s, Luke would have came back in at QB the next drive. But, because Adrian came back in, it shows that the play was basically a trick play and Luke was only used for that specific play. 

So, if we have big bruising back that’s only brought in for a goal line play then take out, is that a trick play?

 

 

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22 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, if we have big bruising back that’s only brought in for a goal line play then take out, is that a trick play?

 

 

Well, it’s fairly normal to play 3-4 running backs in a typical college game. It’s not normal to play 3 QB’s in one game, and bring in one of those QB’s for a play SPECIFICALLY called for him being the QB, unless it’s a gadget/trick play. 

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10 minutes ago, madrat said:

The sample size was small for Tommie Frazier in 1992.  But fans got it correct using the Mark I Eyeball test.  There is a good vibes coming from the McCaffrey experience in 2019.  Fans are high on him for a reason.  That's no trick.

Frazier started the final 6 games of the regular season and the bowl game.  He went 5-2 in those games. It’s not nearly the same situation.

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55 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Well, it’s fairly normal to play 3-4 running backs in a typical college game. It’s not normal to play 3 QB’s in one game, and bring in one of those QB’s for a play SPECIFICALLY called for him being the QB, unless it’s a gadget/trick play. 

Well I guess it is fairly normal to run trick plays 

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1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, if we have big bruising back that’s only brought in for a goal line play then take out, is that a trick play?

 

Depending on context, kinda? Y'all are getting *way* too hung up on technicalities and not discussing the spirit behind why it was referred to as such in the first place. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, madrat said:

The sample size was small for Tommie Frazier in 1992.  But fans got it correct using the Mark I Eyeball test.

 

He played in 9 games, started 7 of them, threw 100 passes and ran 86 times. What the hell are you talking about? 

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Now that they have 4 scholarships QB's and 2 walkon QB's,   I would like the coaches to change the rules around QB's in practice.  Get rid of the green jersey no hit rule.  Make them live with a don't blow them up contraint.   I want to see Qb's that are battle ready, battle tested and tough.   Martinez is 225.   He should be Jamal Lord like in that he is a big tough QB that runs with authority.   I think he was thinking too much last season so maybe they should simplify some things for him.  Also I want them to not only test on plays and reading defenses but make sure they have game time awareness!   Know when to run out of bounds and when not too!   Know when to run clock.   Aaaargh. 

 

Oh and I love the bootleg run/pass.  One of my all time favorite plays.    Play action should always have a place in a playbook IMO.  It gets you a 1/2 second to second of free time. 

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6 minutes ago, flatwaterfan said:

Oh and I love the bootleg run/pass.  One of my all time favorite plays.    Play action should always have a place in a playbook IMO.  It gets you a 1/2 second to second of free time. 

I agree with play action but I take it you are meaning more the under center variety which has is more effective if you have your back to the defense.   This offense has a lot of misdirection in the form of RPO but is different than traditional play action from under center. 

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7 minutes ago, flatwaterfan said:

Now that they have 4 scholarships QB's and 2 walkon QB's,   I would like the coaches to change the rules around QB's in practice.  Get rid of the green jersey no hit rule.  Make them live with a don't blow them up contraint.   I want to see Qb's that are battle ready, battle tested and tough.   Martinez is 225.   He should be Jamal Lord like in that he is a big tough QB that runs with authority.   I think he was thinking too much last season so maybe they should simplify some things for him.  Also I want them to not only test on plays and reading defenses but make sure they have game time awareness!   Know when to run out of bounds and when not too!   Know when to run clock.   Aaaargh. 

 

Oh and I love the bootleg run/pass.  One of my all time favorite plays.    Play action should always have a place in a playbook IMO.  It gets you a 1/2 second to second of free time. 

 

Our three scholarship QBs all ended up injured this year without being hit in practice. If we start hitting QBs in practice we're going to be seeing what Masker can do or we'll be searching campus for a QB. 

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Runningblind - I actually wasn't thinking about it that way, but you are right.   So applying your valid point I would like us to be able to do both -  under center and shotgun.  I hate being in shotgun on the goal-lines and in short situations.  So I think there is a time&place for both.

 

Wyo - I respectfully disagree.   It can happen certainly but we use to do it that way in the past.    I think teammates are smart enough not to light up their own QB.  Otherwise they may end up running steps and get a but chewing and ostricated by teammates.   I just think live action is invaluable.  Need to teach kids not to be afraid.  If you got 1 guy and no experience than I can see hands off or if they are trying to get over a bruise  other than that it should be football not 7 on 7.

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QBs need to see some things at 100% speed to build good habits.  I didn't take it that you're asking for no holds barred contact on QBs.

 

2 hours ago, Landlord said:

He played in 9 games, started 7 of them, threw 100 passes and ran 86 times. What the hell are you talking about? 

Mike Grant was a wonder kid, until he wasn't.  Fans saw enough of Frazier that they were crying for him.  Osborne acknowledged the fan sentiment.  It was pretty self evident to fans, but Osborne wanted to ease him into taking snaps.  Circumstances forced the issue and Tommie became the man.  McCaffrey got the hook when his play suggested he was capable of great things.

 

I guess people forget Martinez came into Nebraska with minimal experience.  Frost sees him as the best athlete for the role.  The kid can pound the Maryland's of the conference.  But we really need someone that is going to stay mentally in the big games.

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