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3 hours ago, N is for nowledge said:

To these points AM also was playing healthy with a much better supporting cast than in 2019.  He also ran the whole offense all game so has a much bigger sample size to analyze.  Some husker fans are the best, trying to run off an actual preseason heisman candidate in favor of their self appointed one with less than 20 pass attempts, 0-1 record as a starter, and 4 games played in.  Gotta love the offseason around here.

Maybe it's cause I only watched 2 games in 2018, so I dont have visuals in my brain of whoever this heisman candidate AM 1.0 was.  I watched every single play last year, and can't figure out why people think AM is good.  He lools like he has talent, Yes, but the decision making and accuracy really hurt us.

1 hour ago, Husker03 said:

I'm like Scott Frost, pot committed to AM. I spent all last season arguing with friends and family that he's exactly the horse I thought he was as a Freshman, he just had a slump year and will bring us offensive riches in 2020 and 2021.. I need to be right about this because I dug my heels in deep. 

I just hope at least one of us is right.

And then there is @HUSKER 37 who thinks Vedral is the best at this point.  Probably was last year.   I'm just going with my gut, got nothing else.  

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I think it's more the fact that Noah saw how good Luke is and probably got a glimpse of Logan's abilities as well. I wish him nothing but the best, but we still have some studs there.

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14 minutes ago, BigPeterJ said:

 

Maybe it's cause I only watched 2 games in 2018, so I dont have visuals in my brain of whoever this heisman candidate AM 1.0 was.  I watched every single play last year, and can't figure out why people think AM is good.  He lools like he has talent, Yes, but the decision making and accuracy really hurt us.

I just hope at least one of us is right.

You only watched 2 games from Adrian’s freshman year?  No wonder you don’t think he’s any good. While Adrian had plenty of freshman mistakes, but he had some games where he dazzled out there.  He had big games against Colorado, Minnesota, Ohio State, Illinois, Northwestern, and Iowa to name a few.  You comment that you liked McCaffrey’s play in limited snaps in 2019, well Adrian was just as electric and a leader as the full-time starter in 2018. 

 

Side point, what kind of Husker fan only watches 2 games of an entire season?  That makes no sense to me. 

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24 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

You only watched 2 games from Adrian’s freshman year?  No wonder you don’t think he’s any good. While Adrian had plenty of freshman mistakes, but he had some games where he dazzled out there.  He had big games against Colorado, Minnesota, Ohio State, Illinois, Northwestern, and Iowa to name a few. 

 

Side point, what kind of Husker fan only watches 2 games of an entire season?  That makes no sense to me. 

I mean he was a preseason Heisman candidate, so i figured he must have looked alot better as a Freshman.  

 

I'm actually surprised also.  It was the first year in maybe 9 or 10 years that i didn't watch almost every game.  Was traveling alot and just had a lot going on.  Was super pumped for the season too and after watching us blow the opener against Colorado (was living in Colorado too) , that just killed me.  And then hearing after the game AM got hurt....and maybe it was too painful, but after getting super drunk and trying to forget about it......well somehow i forgot there were 10 more games, until Iowa came around.  Honestly was busy chasing ladies and chasing the sun traveling, but I'm not really sure how i forgot about it. 

 

Edit: that reminds me , thats 2 years in a row Colorado has absolutely put a dagger in our spirit to start the year.  Both the game in Lincoln, and the one in Boulder were in our hands.  That was AM's first game as a Husker, and Colorado's dirty play has made it so AM hasn't maybe played 1 game fully healthy ever.  I wonder if that injury has lingered or led to more issues ever since.  f#&% CU.

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5 minutes ago, BigPeterJ said:

I mean he was a preseason Heisman candidate, so i figured he must have looked alot better as a Freshman.  

 

I'm actually surprised also.  It was the first year in maybe 9 or 10 years that i didn't watch almost every game.  Was traveling alot and just had a lot going on.  Was super pumped for the season too and after watching us blow the opener against Colorado (was living in Colorado too) , that just killed me.  And then hearing after the game AM got hurt....and maybe it was too painful, but after getting super drunk and trying to forget about it......well somehow i forgot there were 10 more games, until Iowa came around.  Honestly was busy chasing ladies and chasing the sun traveling, but I'm not really sure how i forgot about it. 

Nothing wrong with chasing ladies, but I don’t think you can have a fair opinion on Martinez based on only 2019. Everything you liked from McCaffrey did in 4 games, Adrian did it over 10 games. Adrian took a step back in 2019 due to a number of factors, but IMO McCaffrey and Vedral have a lot to do to catch him as the #1 QB. 

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5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Nothing wrong with chasing ladies, but I don’t think you can have a fair opinion on Martinez based on only 2019. Everything you liked from McCaffrey did in 4 games, Adrian did it over 10 games. Adrian took a step back in 2019 due to a number of factors, but IMO McCaffrey and Vedral have a lot to do to catch him as the #1 QB. 

Yea i added a post edit.  But now i remember our young star QB getting hurt in his very first game.  And when i saw the replay of how dirty the play was.....just wonder how much that could have led to future injuries, or if he healed from that.  And why do we always lose to the teams we hate the most, even when theyre not very good?

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I tend to believe that Adrian fans gave him too much credit for good plays and he did have some scattered thru his frosh year and gave him too many allowances as being just a freshman on his not so good plays.  Understandable as we all wanted badly to believe the hype (frost included).  We could then rationalize how coming as a super soph he’d be something magical!   Didnt happen.  I want to hope he will have a much much better junior season but i camt believe it now until he does it for six games in a row.  

He must run hard and play QB as the veteran that he will then be: no excuses.  If not, I want to give the other QBs a good opportunity.  The job is AM’s to lose and he will have very little time to make mistakes before someone gets a fair chance (several games worth) to show the porential to do more.   Imo.  

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2 hours ago, BigPeterJ said:

 

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And then there is @HUSKER 37 who thinks Vedral is the best at this point.  Probably was last year.   I'm just going with my gut, got nothing else.  

Maybe the best at what we were doing last season..But I still think 2AM is going to be our best going forward..

Wasn't he Freshman or Offensive B10 player of the week 4 or 5 times his Freshman year?

You should watch our games you missed on youtube during this horrid offseason.

 

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Martinez..... returns after a record-breaking 2018 campaign. The 6-foot-2, 225-pounder set 11 school records after becoming the first true freshman quarterback to start an opener in school history. Martinez completed 224-of-347 passes for 2,617 yards and 17 touchdowns last season, while also rushing for 629 yards and eight TDs on his way to All-Big Ten accolades.

Last season, Martinez ranked 12th nationally and led all freshmen nationally in total offense per game (295.1 ypg, a Nebraska record) while also setting school marks for 300-yard total offense (seven) and 400-yard total offense (three) games. He set freshman records for completions, completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, total offense and total touchdowns (25) and ranked fourth nationally among all freshmen with 237.9 passing yards per game.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, HUSKER 37 said:

Maybe the best at what we were doing last season..But I still think 2AM is going to be our best going forward..

Wasn't he Freshman or Offensive B10 player of the week 4 or 5 times his Freshman year?

You should watch our games you missed on youtube during this horrid offseason.

 

 

Ok ok...look i will try to be humble.  It goes against my very name on here, and to be honest i created the name very drunk and this whole thing was a joke at first to me.  If i'm gonna take time to post on a message board, i was gonna try to liven it up , at least have a lil fun while in the despair that is Nebraska football.  But that was at first.  Since then, i actually try to share my true opinions.  But i do still like to add some fun to the board.  I mean its not a serious part of life, its a college football message board.  To me the only things in life that matter are the things that are eternal, everything else dies.  And 100 years from now 95% of anything on this earth means nkthing other than wether souls go to heaven or to hell.  

 

Now that some of you guys bring it up, i do remember the good Martinez from the 2 games i watched in 18', and i will take your word he was like that most of the year.  What the f#&% happened in 19' then? I watched every single play of every single game in 19' and my honest opinion is Martinez cost us alot of games.  This is a sport, so it doesn't mean i dont like him as a person.  I just thought his play at QB was 80% of the time very harmful to our team, and 20% of the time was fair enough.  If he was so good as a freshman, than why was he so bad the entire year (from South Alabama to Iowa), it wasn't like he had a few bad games, he was bad overall throughout the entire year.  

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3 hours ago, BigPeterJ said:

Ok ok...look i will try to be humble.  It goes against my very name on here, and to be honest i created the name very drunk and this whole thing was a joke at first to me.  If i'm gonna take time to post on a message board, i was gonna try to liven it up , at least have a lil fun while in the despair that is Nebraska football.  But that was at first.  Since then, i actually try to share my true opinions.  But i do still like to add some fun to the board.  I mean its not a serious part of life, its a college football message board.  To me the only things in life that matter are the things that are eternal, everything else dies.  And 100 years from now 95% of anything on this earth means nkthing other than wether souls go to heaven or to hell.  

 

Now that some of you guys bring it up, i do remember the good Martinez from the 2 games i watched in 18', and i will take your word he was like that most of the year.  What the f#&% happened in 19' then? I watched every single play of every single game in 19' and my honest opinion is Martinez cost us alot of games.  This is a sport, so it doesn't mean i dont like him as a person.  I just thought his play at QB was 80% of the time very harmful to our team, and 20% of the time was fair enough.  If he was so good as a freshman, than why was he so bad the entire year (from South Alabama to Iowa), it wasn't like he had a few bad games, he was bad overall throughout the entire year.  

AM didn’t play as well that is clear.  He was also injured to a far greater extent than many of us gave him credit for.  In addition, he was surrounded by far lesser athletes in yr two than yr one, with a far worse offensive line than the yr prior.  I’m not sure I can name one offense, at any level, where you lose leading rusher, wr, and 3 starting oline and expect to be better.  Add on to that through ‘19 season you lose jd, wandale, Warner, and Washington for some or most of ‘19.

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21 minutes ago, N is for nowledge said:

AM didn’t play as well that is clear.  He was also injured to a far greater extent than many of us gave him credit for.  In addition, he was surrounded by far lesser athletes in yr two than yr one, with a far worse offensive line than the yr prior.  I’m not sure I can name one offense, at any level, where you lose leading rusher, wr, and 3 starting oline and expect to be better.  Add on to that through ‘19 season you lose jd, wandale, Warner, and Washington for some or most of ‘19.

Regardless of what we had/lost.  He was really bad in 19'. All year.  From beginning to end.  What exactly makes you think he will be better....significantly.

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1 hour ago, BigPeterJ said:

Regardless of what we had/lost.  He was really bad in 19'. All year.  From beginning to end.  What exactly makes you think he will be better....significantly.

The offense consists of 11 people.  He lost over half of the receiving threat and over 60-70% of the rushing threat plus three oline.  That’s not, yeah whatever type loss.  So why better.  He should be healthier, with an established rb who came on last half of the season, better depth at Rb too.  The wrs should see a huge jump in athleticism and depth should be much better.  Biggest piece is the oline should be much better allowing for players to move into more natural positions.  I believe farniok moves into guard, and Hixson and Wilson get pushed hard by several others for the last guard spot.  Oline should be substantially better allowing AM more time to read, better throwing lanes, and wrs where they should be and not needing to focus in on 1-2 guys.  

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